tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post3442711861919362774..comments2024-02-22T10:25:06.452+00:00Comments on Blackdown: On the Origin of ScenesBlackdownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-69826494973964339772012-10-24T04:19:00.355+01:002012-10-24T04:19:00.355+01:00Pretty accurate depiction of what happens!Pretty accurate depiction of what happens!rudeboybasshttp://rudeboybass.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-27635205195657265072009-03-24T16:34:00.000+00:002009-03-24T16:34:00.000+00:00"The darker strains of dubstep and grime echoing t..."The darker strains of dubstep and grime echoing the oppressive bush/blair years and fnky the more optimistic worldly obama era."<BR/><BR/>air pieRichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03616985892354694330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-36500014643438955902009-03-22T07:55:00.000+00:002009-03-22T07:55:00.000+00:00^^^in a roundabout circular way i'd say^^^in a roundabout circular way i'd saypollywoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01295990157397125661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-81371318994597133112009-03-19T22:19:00.000+00:002009-03-19T22:19:00.000+00:00The diagrams are confusing.really? in what way. th...<I>The diagrams are confusing.</I><BR/><BR/>really? in what way. they just go round in a circle...Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-11809959581087970812009-03-17T14:39:00.000+00:002009-03-17T14:39:00.000+00:00innovation vs ritualisationgood pikcha!innovation vs ritualisation<BR/><BR/>good pikcha!musshhhkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02855057765461283937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-19240691289910414672009-03-17T13:46:00.000+00:002009-03-17T13:46:00.000+00:00The diagrams are confusing.The diagrams are confusing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-6200673325963103282009-03-16T08:31:00.000+00:002009-03-16T08:31:00.000+00:00you asked what caused dubstep and grime to leave t...you asked what caused dubstep and grime to leave the 'core' ie UKG, not what caused the downfall of UKG itself.<BR/><BR/>it's a question timelines: the seeds of dubstep (groove chronicles, el-b, horsepower circa 2000) and grime (so solid, hlc, pay as u go in 2001) predate the implosion of garage in 2002/3 anyway!Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-68987417217877986652009-03-16T06:40:00.000+00:002009-03-16T06:40:00.000+00:00you make me laugh more whiteclown......so you're s...you make me laugh more whiteclown...<BR/><BR/>...so you're saying bad press, violence and legislation had nothing to do with the drift from UKG back to the underground to spawn darker beats and rhymes in a paranoid post 9.11 world or that fnky doesnt reflect a new worldly optimism ???<BR/><BR/>you make some good points but for fucks sake back em up cos your word aint gospel eh...<BR/><BR/>...and pollywoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01295990157397125661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-21818603480966921792009-03-15T15:17:00.000+00:002009-03-15T15:17:00.000+00:00you make me laugh Mugdub.dubstep was a reaction to...you make me laugh Mugdub.<BR/><BR/>dubstep was a reaction to how vocal, saccarine and dressy UKG was.<BR/><BR/>grime was a reaction to how unwelcome the growing influence MCs had in UKG.<BR/><BR/>funky was a reaction to how agressive, male MC-dominated, concert-like/un-danceable grime had become.<BR/><BR/>where have you been?Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-3946897615650927752009-03-13T21:28:00.000+00:002009-03-13T21:28:00.000+00:00heh...dont give up ya day job tho eh;pdubstep and ...heh...dont give up ya day job tho eh;p<BR/><BR/>dubstep and grime wasnt about musicians being frustrated with the core tho was it ??? cos UKG/2step/breakstep wit accompanying MCing was still bangin til it effectively got shut down by violence, legislation and bad press forcing it underground to emerge mutated with new genus classification ???<BR/><BR/>...and what core is it exactly fnky is pollywoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01295990157397125661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-87200124250397133412009-03-13T14:24:00.000+00:002009-03-13T14:24:00.000+00:00had to happen one day me old china, unlikely i adm...had to happen one day me old china, unlikely i admit but law of averages i guess...Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-41102328638258306112009-03-13T10:07:00.000+00:002009-03-13T10:07:00.000+00:00^^^wow...no shiti'm impressed......no really i am^^^wow...no shit<BR/><BR/>i'm impressed...<BR/><BR/>...no really i ampollywoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01295990157397125661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-19617575804398951822009-03-12T08:54:00.000+00:002009-03-12T08:54:00.000+00:00These figures are spot on! Where did you find them...<I>These figures are spot on! Where did you find them?</I><BR/><BR/>i drew them on the tube...!Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-40192633463188573452009-03-12T01:52:00.000+00:002009-03-12T01:52:00.000+00:00mutation for mutation's sake? now there's a can o ...<I>mutation for mutation's sake? now there's a can o worms...</I><BR/><BR/>Not really. Minor irritation followed by swift loss from the gene pool.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01331567553071634466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-47936549529300332632009-03-11T22:50:00.000+00:002009-03-11T22:50:00.000+00:00These figures are spot on! Where did you find them...These figures are spot on! Where did you find them?Renato Pagnanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16953290102093838428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-89569196391417852892009-03-11T13:02:00.000+00:002009-03-11T13:02:00.000+00:00mutation for mutation's sake? now there's a can o ...mutation for mutation's sake? now there's a can o worms...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-14278711311835027412009-03-10T23:34:00.000+00:002009-03-10T23:34:00.000+00:00Insertion - 29 basslinesDeletion - unnecessary kic...Insertion - 29 basslines<BR/><BR/>Deletion - unnecessary kicks/snares, bait reggae samples<BR/><BR/>Mutation - loudness wars, LFO<BR/><BR/>Transformation - Kode9 meets LD<BR/><BR/>Cancer - easy access to powerful computers, sequencers & VSTs -> increased rate of production -> swamping of the scence by idiots mistaking half-baked ideas for minimalism. Conversely, creation of classics Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-75191377843412422802009-03-10T17:19:00.000+00:002009-03-10T17:19:00.000+00:00oh yeah, i'm all about the mutation and offshoots....oh yeah, i'm all about the mutation and offshoots. just as long as you dont cross breed something good with something terrible. the end needs to justify the means, not mutation for mutation's sake ;)Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-53984999293556509682009-03-10T15:43:00.000+00:002009-03-10T15:43:00.000+00:00Jazzfunk! Dubstep! Skapunk! Hip House! What is...Jazzfunk! Dubstep! Skapunk! Hip House! What is diluting what? Don't be scared, people. I'm old enough to remember when pirate DJs slagged off pop songs for using house beats, when punk purists slagged off bands for slowing down. That kind of musical fascism leads the sounds deep into the bowels of its creators. It's not a good look. '..incoming deadly ideas from an Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-46429777477983083332009-03-09T09:36:00.000+00:002009-03-09T09:36:00.000+00:00I never did end up sending you my finished dissert...I never did end up sending you my finished dissertation on the grounds that I ended up writing most of it the night before the deadline (and as a result had to wing it and make up a few facts/a lot of it), but the main theme was how dubstep fitted into this evolutionary model. If you feel like a bit of a lengthy read check out http://www.allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/8/3/8/2Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02106353236578457807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-58817740900503235762009-03-09T07:20:00.000+00:002009-03-09T07:20:00.000+00:00@ atatgg you know! i have a whole nother set of di...@ atatgg <BR/><BR/>you know! i have a whole nother set of diagrams that relates to scene tempos and viral shift/drift. just need to find a good way to draw it.<BR/><BR/>i think the spread/killing step is less cancer, more like a virus, where it takes over the host cell/scene. at that point i think step 4 represents this - incoming deadly ideas from an external genre.Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-26420791275721094602009-03-09T06:04:00.000+00:002009-03-09T06:04:00.000+00:00Which stage is the one where most of the output is...<I>Which stage is the one where most of the output is horribly generic and its increasingly harder to find the gems? Somewhere between 5 and 6?</I><BR/><BR/>oh that'll be the one where a migration from another scene takes place and they start cloning the lowest common denominator shit of the new scene...<BR/><BR/>...we'll call that a kode 9 alertpollywoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01295990157397125661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-70989122525594353952009-03-09T04:17:00.000+00:002009-03-09T04:17:00.000+00:00the diagrams are making me think of parallels betw...the diagrams are making me think of parallels between scenes & cells right now<BR/><BR/>what about scene mitosis, scene mutations? are there any cancerous scenes which might spread out & kill the whole if lots of expensive treatment is used to get rid of them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-14828091465559253092009-03-08T23:58:00.000+00:002009-03-08T23:58:00.000+00:006 and 1 surely!6 and 1 surely!Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-75632049373818043882009-03-08T23:22:00.000+00:002009-03-08T23:22:00.000+00:00Wish stageis the one wheremost of the output is ho...Wish stageis the one wheremost of the output is horribly generic and its increasingly harder to find the gems? Somewhere between 5 and 6?NostraJam-eshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12868469974050056368noreply@blogger.com