tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post5088528040071234183..comments2024-02-22T10:25:06.452+00:00Comments on Blackdown: New nuum?Blackdownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-69929986643486572872011-05-31T02:21:57.947+01:002011-05-31T02:21:57.947+01:00I’m joining this debate 18 months on, and I find t...I’m joining this debate 18 months on, and I find the discussions here fascinating. The lecture itself was really interesting, and I wish I could have been there to throw in a tuppence or two…. <br /><br />The only problem I have with Reynolds’ “Hardcore Continuum” is the name. I mostly agree with the theory, I certainly appreciate his viewpoint, and I’m probably wading in to argue over semantics carlybaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416297118142063347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-41721751771834101372009-05-18T19:40:00.000+01:002009-05-18T19:40:00.000+01:00The problem that i have with "wonky" is that it so...The problem that i have with "wonky" is that it sounds really immature, when you say it but also naming a sytle of music based on how the drums aren't quantised (Are joker's drums even unquantised?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-37355897003545690772009-05-13T08:36:00.000+01:002009-05-13T08:36:00.000+01:00"STL said...
I'm turning off my PC and going ..."STL said...<br /><br /> I'm turning off my PC and going out to score goat curry n dumpling, followed by a tin of SB and handful of pills - I then plan to dance until the sun rises...I suggest you do the same - this ain't rock music. Peace"<br /><br />Can't help but agree with this to a degree, some very intellectual stuff being written about some mostly dumb (in a good way) music. <br /><br /Shonxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03840082555170282873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-14807187874868744782009-05-07T13:48:00.000+01:002009-05-07T13:48:00.000+01:00Nice post Martin! Really good reading...Nice post Martin! Really good reading...Tranquerahttp://www.tranquera.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-70460795034062816772009-05-07T09:54:00.000+01:002009-05-07T09:54:00.000+01:00LMFAO, why would I want to produce breakstep?LMFAO, why would I want to produce breakstep?Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-58200979355366266622009-05-07T08:33:00.000+01:002009-05-07T08:33:00.000+01:00...so dont mind slackdown, he's obsessed with me, ...<I>...so dont mind slackdown, he's obsessed with me, some what paranoid and totally insecure</I><B>Says the man who uses several sockpuppets to promote his own blog: MrDubalina on Dissensus,<br />Beetlejuice on DubstepForum,<br />Dubmugga somewhere else IIRC...<br /><br />And who pops up "whack-a-mole" style every time someone mentions "breakstep" to bemoan the fact that dubstep took a direction pollywoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01295990157397125661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-53375150283023547252009-05-06T10:15:00.000+01:002009-05-06T10:15:00.000+01:00Well there is a distinct dance music culture in En...Well there is a distinct dance music culture in England, at its core must be something like the continuum, these central themes that have had a massive influence on a lot of UK styles and genres.<br /><br />However, everything on the tiny island interacts with everything else.<br /><br />The way Mr Nut talks in this article about his influences is more demonstrative of how i think the uk scene Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-21754685223508020272009-05-05T17:48:00.000+01:002009-05-05T17:48:00.000+01:00...so dont mind slackdown, he's obsessed with me, ...<I>...so dont mind slackdown, he's obsessed with me, some what paranoid and totally insecure</I>Says the man who uses several sockpuppets to promote his own blog: MrDubalina on Dissensus,<br />Beetlejuice on DubstepForum,<br />Dubmugga somewhere else IIRC... <br /><br />And who pops up "whack-a-mole" style every time someone mentions "breakstep" to bemoan the fact that dubstep took a direction heAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-81623206819956029202009-05-05T13:10:00.000+01:002009-05-05T13:10:00.000+01:00Interesting stuff. Did Simon Reynolds really dismi...Interesting stuff. Did Simon Reynolds really dismiss any dancehall influence in funky? That seems incredibly short sighted...<br /><br />I see numerous very clear references to and influences from Jamaica in funky - rhythms, samples, vocalists, dance moves etc. What's even more interesting is that funky is now crossing the Atlantic and starting to do things in Jamaica:<br /><br /><A HREF="http://Gabriel Heatwavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06388128510097082862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-2163896589205029052009-05-05T12:59:00.000+01:002009-05-05T12:59:00.000+01:00"Its just more cliquety incestuous journo cockslap..."Its just more cliquety incestuous journo cockslapping over nothing really"<br /><br />Couldn't agree more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-76854069226480960552009-05-05T08:48:00.000+01:002009-05-05T08:48:00.000+01:00er perhaps scouse house is part of a parallel cont...er perhaps scouse house is part of a parallel continuum then?! <br /><br />then again, isn't a donk just a ska or dancehall offbeat skank funneled through a hyperdrive of fast, aggy drugs and 'roids'?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-11494239229777251502009-05-04T14:27:00.000+01:002009-05-04T14:27:00.000+01:00Not that I'm an expert on Scouse House but I don't...Not that I'm an expert on Scouse House but I don't think there's very much hip-hop or reggae in the mix, if any at all. I mean whatever the discussion those really are fundamental elements of the Hardcore Continuum. Scouse House is some of the whitest 'house' music going.<br /><br />A.LurkerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-88771592923259688522009-05-04T12:26:00.000+01:002009-05-04T12:26:00.000+01:00How does the 'nuum account for Scouse House? It ha...How does the 'nuum account for Scouse House? It has to be in there somewhere, or is the nuum just for music that is deemed to be cool south of Watford?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-5715795799448301562009-05-04T10:25:00.000+01:002009-05-04T10:25:00.000+01:00yesdear.yesdear.Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-19968824002440205872009-05-04T08:40:00.000+01:002009-05-04T08:40:00.000+01:00^^^uhhh yeah i know you're not me...
...so dont m...^^^uhhh yeah i know you're not me...<br /><br />...so dont mind slackdown, he's obsessed with me, some what paranoid and totally insecure<br /><br />but for all that. i did like his piece...<br /><br />...as for wonky. Its just more cliquety incestuous journo cockslapping over nothing really<br /><br />jokers all good, gemmy not so good, zomby not even good and kode 9 couldnt produce a fart worthpollywoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01295990157397125661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-59491586021444502012009-05-04T00:16:00.000+01:002009-05-04T00:16:00.000+01:00I'm turning off my PC and going out to score goat ...I'm turning off my PC and going out to score goat curry n dumpling, followed by a tin of SB and handful of pills - I then plan to dance until the sun rises...I suggest you do the same - this ain't rock music. Peace.STLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-53110135579079446322009-05-03T12:03:00.000+01:002009-05-03T12:03:00.000+01:00@ blackdown. wood/trees.
@ dubmug. no idea who y...@ blackdown. wood/trees. <br /><br />@ dubmug. no idea who you are but you're not me. <br /><br />@ joe muggs. re producers..<br />producers do achieve insight as soon as legitimacy tropes emerge. the paradox of a 'continuum' that has innovation (let's push things FWD>>>) as its defining currency is that the individual is required to sacrifice or undermine their own Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-58714752693399666942009-05-03T01:28:00.000+01:002009-05-03T01:28:00.000+01:00great afternoon>>yesh to all logisticians>...great afternoon>>yesh to all logisticians>><br />respect/thanks to blackdown>>top posts and presentations.<br />sunset over dlr--><br />euphoric recall--><br />bukem/horizons + rosie at the drum.<br /> out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-62664350511080286522009-05-03T00:19:00.000+01:002009-05-03T00:19:00.000+01:00that part of the talk seemed to be more like creat...that part of the talk seemed to be more like creative writing to me than a framework, though ending with 'purple wow' was a touch.Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-82191329684057986732009-05-02T23:45:00.000+01:002009-05-02T23:45:00.000+01:00was good day...but
did anyone catch what the list...was good day...but <br />did anyone catch what the list of 'toxic colors' that steve and kodwo were talking about?<br />intriguedsdukdjhttp://pipedownson.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-46011467229489925892009-05-02T16:38:00.000+01:002009-05-02T16:38:00.000+01:00The nuum thing has taught me a lot about British m...The nuum thing has taught me a lot about British music, but I'm still uncertain whether it's the correct level of grouping to be interesting. It seems to me that the geographical field is too limited - I mean, the nineties and onwards has exploded with similarly translocal, hard, urban styles all over the world - baile funk, kwaito, kuduro, electronic soca, post-bogle digital dancehall, reggaetonBirdseedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161105277182690887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-19589271976938070462009-05-02T13:11:00.000+01:002009-05-02T13:11:00.000+01:00sadly once a virus is released into the wild, ther...sadly once a virus is released into the wild, there's no known "recall" mechanism...Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-63293465988115941142009-05-02T04:29:00.000+01:002009-05-02T04:29:00.000+01:00please kill the term wonky.please kill the term wonky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-92062773145473986762009-05-01T19:36:00.000+01:002009-05-01T19:36:00.000+01:00@ Joe Muggs.
I don't think saying that producers ...@ Joe Muggs.<br /><br />I don't think saying that producers don't necessarily have special insight into what they are doing is at all the same as saying they are 'studio automata', although perhaps you didn't mean that quite as pejoratively as it comes across. I mean it's a different mode of expression, there's no reason why a writer should necessarily be able to translate words into paintings ifAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-53735130253309790702009-05-01T13:52:00.000+01:002009-05-01T13:52:00.000+01:00It was extremely interesting and I left with more ...It was extremely interesting and I left with more ideas than I came in with, which is always a bonus.<br /><br />Re the point about "producers don't have any special insight" - of course as Lisa says, a lot of producers can be studio automata, happy to communicate through music and not interested in articulating how it works. HOWEVER my experience says that there are plenty of musicians whose Joe Muggshttp://twitter.com/joemuggsnoreply@blogger.com