tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post2237895322193744067..comments2024-02-22T10:25:06.452+00:00Comments on Blackdown: where do u call itBlackdownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-33677761379503321782009-09-20T00:56:10.210+01:002009-09-20T00:56:10.210+01:00Well its almost October now and maybe this little ...Well its almost October now and maybe this little kerfuffle has died down a little but here is my two cents worth anyway.<br /><br />While I agree broadly with the sentiment you express in the original post I came away from this whole thing thinking you might have a minor case of sour grapes.<br /><br />Maybe an analogy will help. I'm sure we can all picture a Grand Father of a family Aatraitieshttp://ak.vwat.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-51892876789796828882009-08-05T17:41:49.827+01:002009-08-05T17:41:49.827+01:00bullshit. which of the DJs i list in this post pla...bullshit. which of the DJs i list in this post play wobble?<br /><br />and if you find words about music a bit dull, why do you read blogs lol...Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-89336464304833286462009-08-05T14:24:04.609+01:002009-08-05T14:24:04.609+01:00A lot of midrange stuff by starkey, taz buckfaster...A lot of midrange stuff by starkey, taz buckfaster, kanji, raffertie ao is fuckin great.. The keysound release by starkey is pushing that midrange sound in a grimey way.. A lot of the dj's u r talkin about in the post r droppin some midrange too.. So what the fuck is the problem, if its good, then its good, if not dont play it, pushing music in a certain direction with words is pretty dull..Who gives a damnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-62470925835591154432009-07-30T12:40:27.704+01:002009-07-30T12:40:27.704+01:00Picking up from my comments earlier...For those wh...Picking up from my comments earlier...For those who haven't the time to go digging, by way of an introduction to UKF...15 suggestions no order<br /><br />DJ TT : Fish'n'Chips (purist deep house/dub techno - maurizio/carl craig/villalobos)<br />Plastic Cash : Fall Out (wash out that stolen plastic...)<br />Hard House Banton : Siren (Old Kent Road 2am or LNcastle underpass somewhere STLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-80460375697177000022009-07-25T12:57:37.755+01:002009-07-25T12:57:37.755+01:00I'm just surprised it took you so long to say ...I'm just surprised it took you so long to say this out loud in public. It's what I'm sure most original Londoner/proxy-Londoner heads have been thinking on the scene. <br /><br />It's just another cycle, I've seen just the back end of jungle do it, then UK Garage three years later, and now dubstep for the last few years. The comfort for my ears? Funky and the best of the wonkyUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986050144879040988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-24640785633634548712009-07-22T09:19:14.630+01:002009-07-22T09:19:14.630+01:00The reason it's evolving into what it is, is b...The reason it's evolving into what it is, is because everyone wants to make it Dub- But so few can make the perfect balance needed to make good dub. Let it live on and die, but all those who appreciated it in it's prime form will remember it for the true brilliance it is. There will always be some who will bring it back for all those to remember, a silver linining... But some is too few.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-86874083691358862502009-07-17T23:04:25.216+01:002009-07-17T23:04:25.216+01:00wow. great post, and a (mostly) brilliant set of r...wow. great post, and a (mostly) brilliant set of replies. All I can really add is that, when I got into (for want of a better term) dance music, it was DnB in the early 00's. Just about the time that many of the people here would claim that it was really losing direction and credibility. When the Vault by Pendulum came out it was a breath of fresh air as many producers were doing the same Dom Fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521280183811134845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-75355311454364602692009-07-17T02:04:04.840+01:002009-07-17T02:04:04.840+01:00The "and then..." story
On a positive n...The "and then..." story<br /><br />On a positive note... Dubstep regardless of where it is or isn't going is the first british musio (british = pan-cultural LDN) born of design without significant constraints - for that I am truly grateful to everyone who has pushed the boundaries to make it happen.<br /><br />I lived through the rare groove + electro thing that slipped into acid STLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-75167419808709134452009-07-15T16:07:24.956+01:002009-07-15T16:07:24.956+01:00I've been thinking about this over the last fe...I've been thinking about this over the last few days....<br /><br />Recently Kode 9 and Martyn played in Austin, Texas and the day afterward I watched a discussion on Facebook talking about what crap house music they'd played and how this is not what people expected or wanted to hear. Seeing their comments made me realise that a)they still don't know – or recognise - that things have elenanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-7080447728035574952009-07-15T03:07:06.135+01:002009-07-15T03:07:06.135+01:00Join the campaign for more bass, less midrange!
...Join the campaign for more bass, less midrange! <br /><br /><a href="http://micapam.innariddim.com/bass-not-midrange" rel="nofollow">http://micapam.innariddim.com/bass-not-midrange</a>Micapamhttp://micapam.innariddim.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-89214411723834693662009-07-14T12:52:30.401+01:002009-07-14T12:52:30.401+01:00Blood how can you say mainstream dubstep has lost ...Blood how can you say mainstream dubstep has lost it when Snoop Dogg is all over it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-12884149621675416242009-07-11T10:43:36.629+01:002009-07-11T10:43:36.629+01:00It's interesting that really the values of a c...It's interesting that really the values of a chainsaw metal bass track are really really poor and the musicality of a track like 'please' by ikonika has values that exist in music as a whole not as a novelty sound i.e a duckfart bassline.<br /><br />dubstep was world cinema but the wobble gang will turn it into one long shane ritchie movie acceptable for the sun readers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-35011200101698813992009-07-11T10:06:59.240+01:002009-07-11T10:06:59.240+01:00To the poster two above me: wow, that's so dam...To the poster two above me: wow, that's so damn accurate!<br /><br />And this was a major part of my funky/LDN/Nuum piece: that while many of the a-list dubstep producer/DJs have both 1) gone global 2) often stopped being quite so inspirational, they left behind a space that is now being filled.<br /><br />Playing pirate will never make you big like Tiesto. For some DJs that's an issue. Blackdownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520300442318805159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-12069753629674135742009-07-11T02:50:14.378+01:002009-07-11T02:50:14.378+01:00i know what you can do - call a meeting with all t...<i>i know what you can do - call a meeting with all the "real" dubstep dons (including yourself of course) and agree not to play any nights you share with these trashy wobble people who are destroying your beautiful dubstep with their noise.</i><br /><br />The irony here is that such a meeting DID take place. Set up by big-name d&b people who wanted to turn dubstep into the exact Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-31946741664654369272009-07-11T02:42:14.152+01:002009-07-11T02:42:14.152+01:00To those worrying about not getting to see Swamp81...To those worrying about not getting to see Swamp81 style beats in FWD>>: wobble vs deep/wonk/synthy/whatever is a false dichotomy.<br /><br />As proven by good dubstep that is neither (minimal dread-filled Youngsta sets) or both (Starkey tunes that tread the fine line perfectly).<br /><br />There are plenty of generic "deep" tunes and plenty of generic "wobblers". Both Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-2582391003321804882009-07-10T03:03:41.316+01:002009-07-10T03:03:41.316+01:00diversity or death! :) good one...
dsf link to m...diversity or death! :) good one...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=94564" rel="nofollow">dsf link to my latest mix</a><br /><br />ps: not intended as spam, but one of you lot asked for it!robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-64496628471560761292009-07-09T22:24:39.130+01:002009-07-09T22:24:39.130+01:00I think it's kinda odd that you're getting...I think it's kinda odd that you're getting all up about the fact that dubstep has, in the popular circles, taken off in a direction not intended by its authors. This IS a bad thing in a sense, but remember the scene before the explosion in popularity? Small, secluded, going forward. There's no reason why the scene, as it was, can't exist at the fringes. It'll just be the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-17516818604781250752009-07-09T18:12:45.531+01:002009-07-09T18:12:45.531+01:00this seems like an over-reaction the stuff that ru...this seems like an over-reaction the stuff that rusko and caspa is making isnt far off the original sound, its just heavy wobble without pads imo.the guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-17281796793490126302009-07-09T17:42:35.603+01:002009-07-09T17:42:35.603+01:00Great read. It's interesting to see you hone ...Great read. It's interesting to see you hone in on London itself as what's musically relevant. From my vantage point in the southern US, London has certainly stood out as the musical hub for quite a while now. It's easy enough to trade tracks, etc via the net, but we all go dance in our actual city, and to a large degree that's what makes certain places reach a critical mass. darrenhttp://www.wxyc.org/nsenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-362777283692139072009-07-09T15:09:27.120+01:002009-07-09T15:09:27.120+01:00"To find a way that preserves the quintessent..."To find a way that preserves the quintessential London elements of feminine pressure, rawness, rudeness and all the other nuum factors"<br /><br />Ah, but wasn't the loss of feminine pressure among the things that made dubstep in the first place?<br /><br />I for one had been following garage and sublow with little enthusiasm, since 00 or so, from where i was standing (breakcore onAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10191015617680242508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-83723209300569779692009-07-09T14:25:39.360+01:002009-07-09T14:25:39.360+01:00Am i the only one not (over)feeling "Hyph mng...Am i the only one not (over)feeling "Hyph mngo"? Prefer some of his other tunes tbh.<br /><br />Anyway, dubstep as we knew it is dead. There's so much good shit out there on the edges - who needs a genre. And funky is influencing anyone with taste 'cos it's got that FEELING!RichBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-53630280848192561012009-07-09T14:20:28.077+01:002009-07-09T14:20:28.077+01:00^^ Yeah, I do think that the widespread availabili...^^ Yeah, I do think that the widespread availability of DJ technology that allows you to change the speed of a track without automatically having to change the pitch opens up a whole lot of possibilities. <br />Though of course a lot of tracks will still start to sound odd once speeded up or slowed down significantly, even if they're still in the original key.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368999379062914790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-59796613289479129142009-07-09T13:41:39.773+01:002009-07-09T13:41:39.773+01:00^there is too many ableton DJ's everywhere any...^there is too many ableton DJ's everywhere anyway, there needs to be more real DJ's, but thats a different argumentalexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11979413466630812825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-65854336479066574662009-07-09T13:12:35.919+01:002009-07-09T13:12:35.919+01:00Unshackle your brain...the base and brutal has alw...Unshackle your brain...the base and brutal has always been in conflict with the intellectual - the true path is, and has always been your brain is part of your body and linked through nerves and emotions - that's why dancing in a squatted factory on the edge of LDN matters regardless of the drugs, music and shit tea for a £1, ...D&B crashed when the scene ripped in two (metalheadz went STLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8991368.post-4530701413724647252009-07-09T13:10:45.142+01:002009-07-09T13:10:45.142+01:00first off, really happy to see some healthy debate...first off, really happy to see some healthy debate here without much of anyone whining about criticism. i like instances where supporters of the whole midrange wobble noisy sound quickly become defensive when someone criticizes the massive amounts of generic material found within that sound, and tells them to mind their own business. i dont get it.<br /><br />i feel that Blackdown's saying of-https://www.blogger.com/profile/11178008023531125905noreply@blogger.com