Blackdown
dubstep..grime..uk funky..comment..culture
Tuesday, May 22, 2012
Amen Ra v RA
"Letting dubstep go was important though, it was the last scene that I felt properly "involved" in, if you know what I mean. Now I listen to and am involved in everything equally, with no real ties—that shit is all an illusion. The real tie between all of us is the search for harmony that we all seek through music. Fuck a scene."
Amen Ra, LHF.
PS Download Amen Ra in the mix from Sunday Night's United Vibes show here.
Monday, May 21, 2012
Thursday, May 17, 2012
Meet the Mista Men
Mista Men: Exclusive Production showcase
DOWNLOAD it here.
1. Mella Dee - The Way It Was (Unreleased)
2. Loki Boi - One House (MIsta Men's Mr Bumps House Remix) (Young Gunz)
3. Mista Men - Relentless (Unreleased)
4. Mella Dee - Confetti (Unreleased)
5. Mista Men - Hard Drive (Unknown To The Unknown)
6. Mista Men - Babycham (Greenmoney)
7. Mella Dee - Gourmet (Unreleased)
8. Mista Men - Forget U (Unknown To The Unknown)
9. Palace - Mandy (Mista Men Up Norf Mix) (Unknown To The Unknown)
10. Mista Men & Clientele - Juice (Unreleased)
11. Mella Dee & Squarehead - Untitled (Unreleased)
12. Mista Men - Lambrini (Unknown To The Unknown)
13. Mista Men Ft Detboi - I Move Closer (Deep Thrills)
Blackdown: Well to start, it would be good to know some of the basic facts about you guys, how many people produce as Mistamen, where you're based, when you began producing etc?
Mista Men: Mista men is me, Ryan (aka Mella Dee) & John (Woozee), from Doncaster. We’ve been producing roughly about 5 years probably, but under the Mista Men guise for the past 2 or 3 years.
B: Do you produce solo too?
MM: Yeah both do under own separate names
B: Interesting that you guys have the classic 4x4 garage influences but started after UKG had stopped being so active...
MM: It’s probably largely to do with dubstep having such strong roots in garage from my side, it made me really dig deep in, after only really touching on it in my younger days. Plus I'm a big bassline fan being from South Yorkshire its was a big thing here, so that’s definitely played a part as well.
B: Do you see what you do as being part of garage, baseline, both, neither?
MM: Depends on if its Mista Men or solo, I’d definitely put the Mista Men stuff under the bassline name, but I'd say the solo stuff, is more heading to the early days of garage, where it crosses into house territory as well.
B: So what inspired you to go down this particular musical route?
B: OK so, how did niche influence you?
MM: For me there’s a heavy influence, being from South Yorkshire, at the peak of bassline it was always around, and the sound was something I really took to, driving 4x4 that was focused around being fun. And that’s something we've took from the sound now and try to bring it back up to date
B: And when was that? When was the peak?
MM: I'd say probably 2008 regards like when commercially bassline was most popular and well known
B: Was there an interaction between Sheffield and Doncaster, did people make their own 4x4 in Doncaster or was it mostly listening to Sheffield stuff?
MM: There wasn’t much in the sense of producers that I've ever know in Doncaster, and to be honest a lot of the stuff wasn’t even coming from Sheffield after a while, it was all over Yorkshire, Manchester and also the Midlands. Sheffield was just the home for the sound basically with Niche being pretty much the starting point of it all.
B: And for people that don't know about niche, can you explain how it was distinct from garage and how is was similar too I guess?
MM: I think its hard to really describe what makes it different from garage, essentially, its just the continuation of the 4x4 & speed garage sound. I suppose it comes from the basslines themselves, lots of warping sounds, not essentially low end stuff either, it also started to differ later when it got a bit darker and became very MC based, almost like the up north version of grime.
B: And can you explain what happened to niche after 2008 and how it affected you?
MM: Well bassline & niche has always had a bad reputation regards violence with the police, and after the club closing, then reopening as Vibe and yet again having to close, its created a problem of not being able to advertise playing bassline in and around Sheffield and some other cities.I definitely think this affected the scene and people making bassline, it was all around the time the boom in UK funky was coming about, and a lot of people, myself included started swaying towards making the more funky sounds, I think it also had a problem with a lack of quality control at points as well, certain DJs just playing stuff that wasn’t really up to a standard. It's always kept on going, but I think now there is a rise in people who are heavily influenced by bassline, putting there own twist on the sound again.
B: Your stuff seems really close to 4x4 UK garage too, do you feel niche and the interest in garage have converged in 2012?
MM: Yeah, that’s a large part of the change, in some peoples eyes what we make wont be bassline, as its not 140 & does lean towards 4x4 garage sounds, but its the heart of it that makes it bassline for me. There's a few producers such as DJ Q, Checan, Clientele as well, all doing stuff that the main backbone of the sound is bassline, its just adding something different to stop it just being a repeat of what was being made before, I think.
B: This for me is the biggest question with regards to your sound. You're obviously very talented producers, both in ideas and engineering and you've nailed the garage swing when most people can't, but people might ask you, how is it different to 4x4 garage that has come before it?
MM: I don’t know for sure that it exactly is, I think of it more as a continuation of the sound. There was a distinct lack of anyone really trying to make anything that really touched on actual garage, far too much of what was being made didn’t really work how garage should, mellow pads and chords etc, where as for me garage should be a bit sexier and more dancefloor orientated so that’s more what it is all about, bringing back that feeling, if anything the most distinct difference is the combination of the original 4x4 & garage sound with the bassline sounds that have influenced me heavily.
B: You do stand out from the crowd in the way you totally "get" how to make those styles right.
MM: Thanks. I just think a lot of producers don’t really understand what garage is about regards a dancefloor, and specially in the 'future garage' bracket, there seems to be a real lack of the swing and groove needed for it to accomplish what its all about and get people moving.
B: Swing and other things: no rudeness or those dynamic contradictions that made garage so sick. The challenge is though is if you are to reverent to the past you become beholden to it…
MM: Yeah, I agree, I don’t want it to become a case of “we just sound like old garage,” we have to keep progressing the sound but its always going to be important for me, that what we do works out in a club, that’s where the element of combining the more original garage drums, with the more day bassline sounds works best for me, really enjoy doing this in the form of multiple switches and drops to keep the track moving and people guessing.
B: What sort of things do you think about when you write beats?
MM: I mean I've said a few times but its always about how I think a track is gonna feel when your in a club. Because what we make is so dancefloor orientated its got to get me excited, make me personally want to dance, because if we cant achieve that, then I don’t feel were doing what we should be.
B: How do you feel, when immersed in a good dance floor to a really good DJ, can you describe that feeling and what it means to you? Becuause thinking about it, for all of us who are so hooked on club culture, it seems to be something that pulls us back again and again…
MM: I guess its just that feeling of being fully immersed in the moment, where nothing really matters but the music, when the vibe is right, with the right crowd. There’s no better feeling than that. Losing hours without even realizing.
B: Can you tell me about any other acts you rate and relate to in your area?
MM: Not so much Doncaster, but Sheffield for sure, Squarehead & True Fiction as Clientele and on there own are worth checking, some really good speed garage vibes, Checan as well even though he's down in London now is from Sheffield, he's on more of a straight bassline tip, I reckon there all worth watching.
B: I don't know those guys, what's one track from each people should know about?
MM: Checan has to be "Hytz" which dropped on Unknown To The Unknown. Squarehead on his own going for "Steer Me Wrong" its got that bumpy garage/house vibe I tend to run a lot and then the Clientele stuff probably a track called "She Knows" - serious speed garage vibes on that. It's the first track in this video.
B: nice, anyone else?
MM: Off top of my head not really, i mean there's Beneath but he's a given and not from these ways. Walter Ego, his stuff is really good. This is a track he did with a couple of Sheffield MC's.
B: So with these guys do you feel a sense of community or do you all work on your own thing?
MM: Its a community thing these ways I feel, like me & Squarehaed doing tracks together and myself & Checan doing a bassline alias as well. There's a lot of love for local stuff up here for sure, which I think is important build our own up north thing
B: And how did the Detboi collaboration come about?
MM: Just sending Des some bits a while back, mentioned he was planning to get some collabs for Detboi’s last LP 'Curse of the voodoo Drums 2' and we ended up making 'Sanctuary of Love' which was the single release from that, and then we spoke with Herve about doing a release for Deep Thrills, and just decided we would do a EP with Des for that, which became the 'Happen to You' EP. I think our collaboration on the 'Happen to You' EP is the better part, I'm biased towards the speed garage/4x4 sounds though.
B: if you had to be one of the Mister Men, which would it be and why?
MM: I like to choose one of the cool ones, like Mr Impossible or something, but if I'm being honest the one that suits me is Mr Bump, I'm overly clumsy, and to be fair the names kind of fitting with the music i guess.
Friday, May 11, 2012
The return of Okzharp
Two years ago Okzharp aka Gerv from LV returned to his native South Africa. The people he met and the music that soundtracked it became the Okzharp mix - one of the best received mixes I've ever posted.
Well recently he went to South Africa again, so with his Okzharp party at the Last Refuge in Peckham Rye tonight ft Errol Bellot, Will LV and more, and with a SA-tinged LV album "Sebenza" due on Hyperdub this year, the time was right for a new mix.
Okzharp's Night Drive After-Party Bumble Taxi mix in Gerv from LV's own words...
"I was thinking back to this night drive I did with a friend years ago, returning to Cape Town from a town a few hours away. I was remembering how the landscape disappeared under cover of darkness and we were left with a road and occasional landmarks. I remember how different it felt from the outward journey. The feeling of not being 100% certain we had taken the right turn back there. I remember the roar of the car as the tarmac turned to gravel at points, shocking us out of our road trance."
"I remember going round a bend in the middle of nowhere and suddenly seeing flashes of purple light to our left and realising it was the Indian Ocean. For some reason I also remember we only had three CDs with us. 'The Beginning' by The Infinite Boys, an Afrotainment compilation CD mixed by DJ Tira and a Patsy Cline best-of. I remember we played the Tira CD twice and then the Infinite Boys cd twice."
"I still don't really have that clear an idea of what 'taxi music' is but I've heard people use it quite alot and they seem to know what they mean by it. I think I just like the idea of it. My mate Smiso aka Okmalumkoolkat aka Sjambok aka The Zulu Compurar aka DJ Partytime always tells me about this underground bumble rave scene in the areas around Durban. People don't need to ride the taxis into the city any more, they just go bumble raving nearer to where they live. And now people leave the city to go to the bumble raves."
"I like the idea of a night drive back to reality after one of these parties. I think that was what I started out trying to soundtrack with this mix. There are bits of what i think of as taxi music and bumble kwairave house type music in there but but I'm not a house DJ so inevitably other stuff crept in via reedits and blends, glossy wav and dutty MP3. It arrives at the LV remix of the new song by Benin City, Josh Idehen's group."
"It's just over an hour. It's full of tunes I love and it is what it is and I hope people like it."
Okzharp's Night Drive After-Party Bumble Taxi mix
DOWNLOAD HERE.
Professor - Imoto
Mogrigo (Okzharp reedit) - Heavyweight
Lepyata - DJ Killer
Track 7 - ?
Ses Khatele - T'zozo
Device - LR Groove
Baby Jelly - DJ Killer
Tribal Seagulls (Radio Slave reedit) - Kenny Dope
Childs Play - LR Groove
Jana - DJ Killer
Murder (Okzharp reedit) - Minister
Antural - My Aim
Sorry - Sgicha
Zimba (Okzharp reedit)- Shifty
Warrior - Funkstepz
Imoto (dub) - Professor
Dirty Paraffin - Primustof
Ukuta (Nompumelelo Groova mix) - Sdunkero
Only - Jumping Back Slash
In Da Market (Okzharp everlasting dub) - Wiley
Ngomso (Das Kapital reedit) - DJ Clock
Ngitsandza Wena (Okzharp reedit) - DJ Steavy & Mr Edu
Track 6 - ?
Ama Lights (Okzharp edit) - Big Nuz
Im So Confused - Jumping Back Slash
Just Be Yourself - DJ Steavy
Off The Wall (Tshwara Lebota) - DJ Mphulo
Feel (Vocal Mix) - Trackheads
Owethu Wena (Okzharp reedit) - DJ Fisherman
Daka - Jook 10
Bad Gyall Fi Dem - Maxwell D & Badness
Long Wait - Mapeps
Get Low - Jook 10
Mallet - Walton
Output Stereo Out - Cat's Eyes
Watch This - Kenny Dope
Calango version - XXXY & Samrai
Sankaa - Walton
Nomhle (Okzharp reedit) - DJ Killer
Swagger (Dub Mix) - DJ Naughty
Totem - Output Stereo Out
King Of The Dancehall (DVA rmx) - Rudi Lina
Baby (LV rmx) - Benin City
- Okzharp & Errol Bellot, Will LV, Micachu, D££monds and Mothy appear tonight at The Last Refuge, Peckham Rye.
Monday, May 07, 2012
Rinse April

Dusk & I were back on Rinse Thurs 26th 11-1am.
DOWNLOAD the audio.
Rudimental "Deep In The Valley ft. MC Shantie (Woz Remix)" [unreleased]
Marcus Nasty and Funk Butcher "Public Service Announcement" [WeRBass]
Visionist "Danger" [unreleased]
Ill Blu "Late Night" [unreleased]
Roska "You Dun Kno" [forthcoming Rinse]
Walter Ego "Messeh" [Bootlegs]
Beneath "Witches"[unreleased]
Sleeepin' Giantz (aka Zed Bias & Rodney P) "Badungdeng" [forthcoming Tru Thoughts]
Jon E Cash "War (Grievous Angel refix)" [unreleased]
Mr Casual "Sublotec" [unreleased]
Roska "Badman feat. Sweetie Irie" [forthcoming Rinse]
Nocturnal Sunshine (aka Maya Jane Coles) "Meant to Be" [DJ-Kicks]
Roska "OnRinseSinceZeroEight" [forthcoming Rinse]
Emma "Marina" [unreleased]
Grievous Angel "Your Love Will Never Be Enough For Me" [unreleased]
FBOM "Hoods Up" [forthcoming]
LokiBoi "One House (Mista Men Mr Bumps House Remix)" [unreleased]
Wen "Spark It" [unreleased]
Logos "Devils" [unreleased]
Moleskin "Slow Dancing with Ms haversham to Moments in Love in Satis House" [unreleased]
Moleskin "Thru the Rain" [unreleased]
Comma "Mezcal Hologram" [Frite Nite]
Octaviour v LDM (LHF) "Retitled" [unreleased]
Buzzin10 "StringTing" [forthcoming Frijsfo]
Octaviour (LHF) "I Carry Message" [unreleased]
Cluekid "GRIM" [forthcoming Aquatic Lab]
Baobinga & ID ft Rider Shafique "Gun Talk (Kahn RMX)" [Build]
Phon.O "Slavemode" [forthcoming 50 Weapons]
Guido "Flow (Instrumental)" [unreleased]
Whistla "My Father and I (Remix)" [forthcoming L2S]
Gremino "Rupi (140 VIP)" [unreleased]
SRC "Red Shirt" [unreleased]
Guido "Africa" [unreleased]
Mr Mitch "Junior" from "Searching, Volume 1: Venus", free download - send
"searching" to music@mrmitchmusic.co.uk to get it]
Dusk & Blackdown "Don't Stop (Give it to Me)" [unreleased]
SRC "Milkshake" [unreleased]
Joss Ryan "Melancholy Dreams (Slick Shoota remix)" [DVA Music]
Kowton "Jam003 (Desto refix)" [unreleased]
- Download all the Dusk & Blackdown Rinse shows to 2008 HERE.
Tuesday, May 01, 2012
Sunday, April 29, 2012
How do I get started in production?
I’m
no production expert, honestly I’m not. If you want the info on every VST ever,
the secret to world’s most mind blowing mixdowns or how to record to 5.1 surround sound, then
there’s tons of people out there who can help. But Dusk and I have been
producing for over ten years, written an album and some singles and I
co-engineered about half the LHF album, so periodically people ask on Facebook
or whatever about how to get started in production and this is something I
overcame, so I thought I’d share my thoughts. Who knows whom it will affect and
what music might, down the line, come of it? Just that idea alone, of all those
possibilities, makes me want to write & share this post…
Get
hungry, find a way
Learning to produce from scratch is hard,
it is like learning an entire language in itself, so the first thing you’ll
need to be is hungry. I could probably explain how to how to beatmix (DJ) in ten steps
and teach someone in an afternoon. I don’t think this is possible with
production. So a hunger to overcome obstacles and find a way to your sound is
essential. If you’re not sure, it’s probably not for you: this is not the path
of least resistance.
Make
music, a lot.
This is something I say to people when they
ask me about getting started and perhaps it sounds a little strange but as a
guiding principle, it’s true. Whatever you do, find a way – any way - to make
music and do it a lot until you progress.
My advice, if you’re into studio based
music, is to beg, borrow or steal one of the soft studio packages. Reason,
Fruity Loops or Ableton are a great start. Why not Cubase, Logic or ProTools
straight away? In my experience the learning curve is too steep. You’re busy
looking for your sound, learning about chords or arrangements, positionising
and rhythmic composition – the last thing you need is the most advanced sound
engineering package to master too (been there, lost months or years to it).
Just get something up and running so you can make music, a lot. That’s the
single biggest, most fundamental step: all other music making after that is just an iteration.
Don’t
let the machines master you
At first music production programs are
confusing, they are. Most presets are crap and the tracks you make don’t sound
right. Essentially the technology is having its way. You need to fight those
crap pre-sets away, throw out default samples and most of all, don’t let all
your music fall on the grid. Most software programs lead you to making music in
regular intervals: 1 beat, ½ beat, an 1/8th a 1/16th or
32nd. But stick to these and your music will sound stiff and
lifeless. Master the machines and find a way to your sound, not the sounds you
first find in front of you.
Find
a good source of advice but…
Wheel re-invention is an admirable pursuit
for which there are no prizes. In the
early days what you’re technically trying to do has probably been done hundreds
of thousands of times before. One of my regrets is that when Dusk and I in 2001
decided to start producing that we didn’t ask enough for advice. Most producers
I now know are more than happy to talk about production, often at length. Some
of them prefer talking about sound engineering than music (though that’s
another story). Find one of these people who’s on your wavelength and ask if
they’ll show you how to get up and running. Trust me you’ll save yourself
years. But remember you will need to…
…
decide what to ignore.
Producers often present subjective opinion
about sound engineering as fact. They describe their single data point as an
incontrovertible rule. Absorb from them for a while but never forget to log
what you’ll take on board and what to ignore. This will prove vital in
developing your sound. What sounds you refuse to use or techniques you wont
touch are as vital a those you do. Later
on when you have a sound of your own you may want to question what you’ve
questioned and rejected, if you get what I mean, so you can evolve your sound
(I swore for nearly a decade I’d never use a 4x4 kick, but after UK funky
decided that’s exactly the reason to use one and see if we could still make it
sound right for us) but that’s a bridge to be crossed when, well, there’s some
water under it.
Find
your own way
As an extension to “decide what to ignore,”
finding your own ways to make music is also a great route to individuality.
Working out weird new things to sample, time signatures to work in, odd
hardware configurations, mutations and fusions of otherwise un-connected styles
will all help set you apart from the pack. Your sound is a reflection of you. So, who are you?
Take
inspiration, don’t clone.
Often at the beginning of your production
career your hunger will be fueled by producers who have inspired you. You want
to make music because of the way their music makes you feel (in my case it was
El-B). In the process of getting up an running, you might well find yourself in
a phase where you – consciously or subconsciously – start to sound like them.
This is normal but you should probably get over it as quickly as possible.
Honestly you should, no one is going to play weak clones of Burial and your
J-Dilla tribute? They're not.
Now I’m all in favour of “scenius,” the
idea of producers collectively vibeing off each other, that a scene works as a hive, honestly I think it’s
vital. And equally while some individuals contribute more than others, few
exist in a vacuum: they are just probably less overt with their influences than
others. So my advice is look deeper into
what inspired you about the producer in the first place and look deeper into a
few others, then combine them in your own, unique way. Then it’s greater than
the sum of its parts.
When I say “look deeper,” here’s an
example. My inspiration was El-B circa 2000, so a cloner’s approach would be:
right, let’s get a woodblock and put it on the 2 & 4, few hats & kicks,
maybe get a bassline and some r&b vocal samples. There: a shit Ghost clone.
Instead, I’d say what I loved about Ghost
records was their delicious sense of tension, perfectly balanced between dark
and light. Their juxtaposition of masculine and feminine, rude and gentle.
Finally they were percussively funky, all swung and skippy, i.e. they had
elements off the grid. Now all these learnings can be applied in quite varied
contexts, tempos and to different sounds, arrangements and types of percussion. Do this
and it won’t sound like a Ghost clone but it might be in part inspired by it.
The other part inspiration is all yours.
Same applies to jazz. Jazzy = shit sax sample, walking double bass line, failed attempt at sophistication. Jazz-inspired: use of free improv melodies, live interaction between different elements in the track, a free spirit & mind.
Get
honest feedback
This is useful once you get up and running.
I had this teacher at school that said “your first idea will be your worst one”
and while it may not be incontrovertibly true, it stuck with me. Certainly
when I’m first sent unreleased tracks by producers I can hear if someone’s "got
something" but they invariably get better over time. Having someone near you who
can give honest feedback can help you make this progression. Super famous DJs
will probably be too busy to give you detailed feedback, but a good A&R,
producer or DJ you connect with should be able to help. If it sometimes hurts a
bit, it may end up being useful in the end.
Be in it for the right reasons.
Learning to produce well and find your
sound takes ages: years of dedication at the expense of other things that are
more fun like drinking, clubbing, sex, drugs and Xbox. It’s also a terrible
way to make money: people don’t buy music anymore. You can make more money DJing
for 1 hour than a four track EP makes in a year, and four good tracks could take
you months to write. Now as Bun Zero points out, as a DJ you increasingly need to produce to "make it," so the two path's are interlinked, but making it as a DJ is a separate article entirely. So my position is: make music because you love it; honestly it’s not a good
“career” move and if you write beats from your bank balance not your heart,
people can tell.
I
think that’s enough for now. Other follow up topics are kinda subsequent issues
to the above, so I’ll leave them for now, but they include in no particular order…
- Compression
- Mixdowns
- EQing
- Arrangements
- Mastering
- Sound sources – VSTs, hardware etc
- Getting your music “out there”
- Publishing, Distribution, PRS/PPL, licencing and other industry issues.
- others I'm sure I'll think of later...
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