As I sit here listening to the Keysound Skream 12" TP - Jason Transition has smacked it out of the park - 2010 is moving along nicely. First big gig is myself, Dusk and LHF in Glasgow on the 26th of Feb. Check the Facebook Group here.
LHF got some good news today, all will be revealed in the coming months but it's so exciting to see things progressing. After our Glasgow set, watch out for a London-based Keysound night in March too. Oh and myself and Dusk had some stratospheric, game-changing news come in on Wednesday for us as producers, more news as and when we get our heads around it all.
Ever since El-B inspired me to learn to produce, I’ve been obsessed with garage drum programming. I soon found though that 2step and 4x4 garage drums are deceptively complex to produce. In essence 2step drums aren't really about the snares on the 2 and 4, they're about the hats on the offbeat 8th notes (2,4,6,8 and their interaction with the kicks on the 1, 5 and where ever else you put them).
With all the talk of Future Garage late last year, I wanted to pool and then share all the knowledge out there on garage hi hat programming, so posted a thread on the Future Garage forum. Here is a summary of the best tricks of this amazing dark art, posted by different producers. If you know of any more, leave a comment and share the knowledge!
Swing
This is the core trick of garage hi hat programming, one that separates garage from much of house, trance, electro and many genres that share its tempo. In essence shuffle or swing, is the placing of key hi hats so that some of them are off the grid positions so that they interact with those on the grid. This is done with a “shuffle” function in your sequencer, which moves them, or with specific groove templates you can apply.
An extreme amount of shuffle- or rather simulating an extreme amount of shuffle - manually - with where you place the beats can sound best. shuffle/swing is best when it's just a bit too much, or too little - just right sounds too correct.
You can swing by hand, you can do your drums as audio rather than midi. Turn the snap to grid off and zoom out so have less precision with where you drag and drop hats. You can also use old breaks, they have good natural swing.
If you use Ableton 7 the global swing amount can be automated on the master channel, affecting anything you have running as midi (ie sampler/simpler, synths etc). Using this you can set the swing amount to change subtly or drastically in a bar then copy and paste it across the length of your tune for a heavy non-standard swing. Also you can use the global swing amount to make the start and end of your tune a bit easier to mix if you get carried away with this trick.
MPC grooves for Logic are easy to find on the net. “I use them for everything,” says Grievous Angel.
Use an arpeggiator on hats to generate ideas quickly. Put four percussion sounds that are unique – i.e. open hat, closed hat, maraca and a rim shot, hold the notes down and set the arp to swing 16 or whatever you prefer. If you have a straight kick and snare going to you can hear the contrast easily. This might be Live specific, but if you swap the order of the sounds you'll get different effects. Also, leave a spot blank to skip a beat etc.
Another trick would be using the Track Delay to offset sounds by a few milliseconds, nice for giving a vocal or synth a charge ahead of the rest of the track etc. Make my kicks drops -3ms to avoid the bass a little more.
Complex swings
Try triplet hat shuffles. Or a good way to get a smooth groove is to create your own swing, by putting second and fourth 1/16 note hit late (or ahead of time) differently to each other. Meaning:
Normal swing: x x(late) x x(late) x x(late) x x(late) x x(late) x x(late) x x(late) x x(late)
Complex swing: x x(late1) x x(late2) x x(late1) x x(late2) x x(late1) x x(late2) x x(late1) x x(late2)
You could put the idea even further by making different delays to every twin hit.
"I only swing the percussion BETWEEN the kick, snare & main hats. It’s your choice how to swing them, via groove quantize, 16T or just by hand. I personally do it by hand to keep a natural/live feel to the drums."
-- El-B
Skip
Pitch your hats so that they have a flex to them. Where “swing” is generally referred to when talking about garage drums, technically swing means moving your hats forward or back in time, off the set grid times. But garage hats also use pitch, to make the sounds flick against each other.
An important part of the 'bump' in garage is the fact that the beats are higher pitched and the release on snares, Ghost snares and claps are punchier and tighter than other genres with increased compression. “If I make house my kick will probably sit around 100hz for the thump but if I make garage it will probably be at around 200hz. I dunno if this was purposeful with the original garage boys or a result of the 16+ cut dubplates of US garage”
-- Sentinels, Future Garage Forum
Gating
Gates are take the sound event in one sound module and use it as an event to apply an effect to another sound. Sending all the drums through a bus with a gate on gives that clipped sound. A little automation on the threshold can provide some interesting results too.
Here's how to make that hi hat mess ala Tuff Jam / Todd Edwards: Take a 909 Open Hat, duplicate it like 4 times, pitch it to several different varieties, shorten the longer ones so they are all the same length, preferably resample the pitched ones into an Akai sampler at low volume and gain up (for that CCRRHH bit crushed effect). Sample envelopes can play a large part in swing, messing around with sampler settings Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release [ADSR] times yields interesting results.
Source of hats
You can sample hats: 70's dub reggae's hats are the king of grit. Funk/soul are of course classic sample sources too. Then it's good to complement sampled hats with classic drum machine-hats, 808's for example, to get a bit sharpness/strongness into them. But then it's good to compress/distort them to not sound too separated. And to get that classic garage feel, it's good to gate them in little snippets, and flatten them with compressor/distortion. Cutting hi ends to some extend are a good idea, to make them sound not too harsh, and then mix them loud!
“So many things which can influence a groove. To start with inaccurate sample chopping - i.e. not getting the start point quite right on hi hats can introduce a swing all of its own, so it's not necessarily all about the groove and the grid."
"Having said that I have used many different grooves - 16T on Cubase is where the Garage started for me. Now, being a Logic User, I go for the swing %age - 66% being triplets (16t's)."
"I also use the MPC groove templates now - I'd recommend them highly. I always play in my drum patterns at about 80bpm and then quantize them. Velocities make a big difference. I quite often use a lo-fi plugin or bitcrusher to nasty things up a bit. Having said all that it's all still about listening and tweaking. Happy swinging...”
-- MJ Cole
Tempo
Another other factor is tempo. The faster you go the less room there is for hats to be swung i.e. moved between set grid positions. 140 bpm is quite hard to get swing at 134bpm is much easier. part of why Kowton's Stasis g mix sounds SO swung is because it's 127ish. i.e. there's crazy space between respective 16th notes.
Velocity
Velocity is a variable that determines how hard otherwise similar drums hit. Varying the weight of snare from the 2nd to the 4th often helps. Applying a similar method to the kick can work, too, with the heavier kick on the 1st beat of the bar (or on whatever part of the bar needs emphasis), and the lighter kick used in 'skippier' places (offbeats etc.).
“One thing I’ve noticed it that beats with a lot of bump have an inverse gravity where the bigger elements have more space around them than the lighter ones. Space is important as that is what creates the anticipation.”
-- Sully
Include straight elements
You have to have a couple of elements played straight otherwise your drum pattern won't make any sense and won't be funky. Rhythms can only be swung if you have something that isn't swung to compare it to.
At the edges of my mind I hear the sound of strange forces coalescing, mutterings of hoards of dubplates being assembled, psychotropic riddims ready to be unleashed on an unsuspecting public.
Hmm, must be an LHF set at B.O.M.B. then. See you on the other side.
I'm excited to say Skream has a 12" forthcoming on Keysound Recordings, two lost dubs. "Sweetz (2005 Flex)" hails from the "eyes down" 3rd Base era of DMZ, one of the most amazing set of club experiences of my life. "Angry World" dates from after it but harks back to the Horsepower sound of 2002. This blog post is devoted to Croydon's finest and the gang.
When I go about finding art for Keysound 12"s I ask the producer, "tell me about a place that means something to you and these tracks." Scratcha DVA chose the Limehouse studio complex where "Bullet A 'Go Fly" was recorded and Goodz told me where in Leighton he used to get his hair cut as a yout. Obviously Skream said "Big Apple records," the shop in Croydon where he, Benga, Artwork, Hatcha and Hijak used to hang out and Chef, N Type, Kode9, Mala, Loefah, Walsh, Coki and more (even me!) used to buy dark garage records.
Thing is Big Apple got sold to grime producer J Sweet, so photos of it now weren't an option. I began digging. I rang Hatcha who said the only photographer he could remember was Cleveland Aaron, Chantelle Fiddy and my ole comrade in arms from Deuce mag (RIP). I ring Cleve but turns out all his photos from that era got lost in a iMac crash (inc the eski-era Wiley n Wonder ones, *gulp!*). There must be copies, so I email my old editor who sends me on to his designer: no luck. She sends me on to their previous designer: no luck.
Then online I find the shot you see above, taken by Greg Tuck: it's of the old Big Apple door in the state it now is. But covered in stickers from the Apple era, it's like reading fossil layers in rock. Click on the image on Flickr for annotated notes of what the stickers are.
So that was the a-side sorted. What about the b-side art? Phone goes: it's Hatcha. "I think John might have some." Turns out John, former owner of Big Apple Records is back in the country. He mails me to say he'll dig around in storage.
Result: Hatch gets in touch to say John's found some old never-before seen-archive photos of the Big Apple days. Here they are...
Skream and Benga in Big Apple records Croydon, circa 2001. Shot by former shop owner John Kennedy
Artwork, Goodfella and Skream in Big Apple records Croydon, circa 2001. Also shot by former shop owner John Kennedy.
I asked Artwork who that guy in the middle of this photo was and got this reply... “That is Goodfella with one of the Apple stickers on his arm. 60% of people walking in the shop would get a friendly pat on the back. Only to find out when they got home they had been walking round Croydon with an Apple sticker on them all day!”
“This started an instant reaction when leaving the store called the “Apple Scratch” i.e. wildly feeling your own back for the stickers. No one was immune. But Hatcha would check himself every 30 seconds and could never be caught out. Hatcha personally wrote out his own stickers for his victims ranging from ‘divpot’ to ‘I rape kids.’”
-- Artwork
Needless to say I used one of these photos on the 12" art and the YouTube video, alongside some "enthusiastic" MCing from Oneman and Abso on Christmas eve on Rinse, one of my favourite sets from the pair (and that's saying something). This is what they sound like...
Finally I interviewed Skream, Benga and Magnetic Man for the NME just before Christmas. Times must have changed, as the first time I interviewed Skream it was with Benga in the cafe next to Apple in Croydon. The second time was in Loefah's house in '05. Now we were in posh west London and they're signed to a major. Times really have changed, but I'm happy for them. If anyone should take on the festivals and the big arena's, it should be these three. Fair play to them.
Benga, Skream and Artwork interview, December 2009, a pub, west London.
Martin: So who’s stupid idea was magnetic man then?
Benga: Mine!
Artwork: All of us were talking, for about six months. They were playing records out and we were making music and we thought about doing something that pushed it on a bit. And so that’s where it roughly started. Then the Arts Council said ‘yeah, we’re looking for something like this as well…’ So they gave us a load of money to make a live show. It was different because we could put all these tracks together and then change it all around… Change the tracks as you’re playing them.
B: There were times when we’d produce something and I’d think I could use that, it was such a heavy twistup.
M: Are any of the early sets recorded?
A: no, no-one recorded it, as it was just a bit hap-hazard.
Skream: There is actually a set recorded, from Matter.
M: Kode9 said to me that live sets with Ableton are really good for stumbling on ideas you later want to go build upon in your studio…
A: That’s right, it is. We do sometimes loop up on some bit or drop to some part and go…‘that sounds wicked.’
M: So who does what?
B: I’m not a bass player and he [pointing at Skream] is not a snare player.
A: It shifts around, it kinda split up, between drums on one, bass on another. Top line on another, but then it switches around. When the gigs are back to back you don’t have time to switch them around, but when you have more time you want to experiment more, so you think ‘I’ll tell you what, I’ll filter that, or I’ll knock that right out.
S: We try not to do the same thing every show because by the end of it you’ve mastered your part.
M: Does it evolve as it goes along?
A: It does.
S: Each show is a rehearsal.
M: Does it feel different to DJing?
S: It’s more stressful, much more stressful, because any slight move could blow people’s ears out. We have played stuff that is far too high so you have to sort of limit it. We had a problem before…
A: We linked up a machine and every single sound in the sampler played at once. It sounded like the earth was caving in.
S: Me and him [waves at Benga], nearly had heart attacks.
A: We’ve also begun to use some hardware in the show, a Native Instruments drum machine. We use it live to fire off a lot of the samples.
M: I suppose that adds a bit of visual interaction, but mostly how do you make it visually interesting?
A: Elliot from Novak does our light show and he’s worked out a system where he can pick certain sounds out so if he hears the bassline he gets a feed from that and make some visuals so that it’s completely different every single set.
M: You didn’t fancy getting 15 dancing girls, costumes and…
S: Nah we keep that for the DJ sets, haha… nah.
M: I know it sounds stupid but you’ve got to ask yourself these things: what are you going to do visually when you go from the studio to a live performance?
S: We keep it simple and all about the visuals. It’s a main part of the show for me, the visuals.
A: Seeing a sound come up and then see Elliot have a shape for that sound, it’s usually pretty spot on. He’s got it really fucking good now and he’s working on something for the next tour that’s insane. I don’t know what he’s doing, this nine projector thing, one projector for each sound.
M: It’s good though, as it leave you guys to make the music, which is kinda what you guys do, instead of trying to impose the visual side of things on you… so where did you tour in the first six months or so of Magnetic Man? Because it started with the Arts Council shows but then ended up with some pretty big festivals…
B: Roskilde…
S: Glastonbury…
A: Bestival…
M: Damn, what was that like? ….err, all of them!?
S: Roskilde was amazing!
B: I think… I don’t want to be too much ‘this was the best, that was the best’ but I think Roskilde was the best.
S: It was the best. The place is run like clockwork, it’s one of the best festivals I’ve been to. Everything was perfect. The crowd was sick, just massive… and it’s not just even that: they listen.
B: You get such different listeners.
S: I hate it when we do the Magnetic Man thing at dubstep nights because the DJ before us… we’ve played after N-Type before and he’s a well energetic DJ, playing the big tunes one after another very quickly. Whereas with Magnetic Man the tune can be playing for up to three minutes…
B: …and change in style
S: … so the crowd could get bored. When you go to a festival they’re open, they listen to everything. Before you, you might have a band and after you, a DJ. It’s cool.
M: I think it’s great that you guys were the one to take it to that level, because there are a lot of guys who have come out of dubstep and got big who perhaps weren’t there at the original time, but no one can say anything to you three... does that mean a lot to you guys, that it’s you that have gone live at these massive festivals, not anyone else?
A: It’s good because we were there, at. The. Very. Start. It started from Big Apple records, and we were all there. And it’s just moved along and moved along until now, this is fantastic because it can take it to everyone now. It’s great to know it’s going to be fucking massive!
M: So this is the thing. I know we’re sitting here in West London with Sony records and I’ve heard the older Magnetic Man tunes but I don’t know what the next steps are… what is the plan to take it to that ridiculous level in 2010?
B: I think it’s more to do with our music now, coming out of dubstep. Don’t get me wrong, we’re still all about that, but this is another evolution. We’re on the stage where it doesn’t have to be exactly dubstep. I reckon we can get really creative. It’s going to come from the album.
S: With all three of us doing it it’s going to get ultra-no-holds barred.
B: Which is kinda the way dubstep was at a stage before. So we’ve just got back to that, but on a bigger scale. It’s going to be massive next year.
M: So do you envision it being a vocal thing or an instrumental thing?
A: We’ve got artists but at the moment it’s just about making the Magnetic Man sound. The stuff we’ve done before and where we’re going: it’s really exciting. We’re properly hyped about it. We’ve already got some collaborations lined up but obviously that’s “to be revealed,” so it’s more about the Magnetic sound.
M: I’m interested to see the transformation, when it’s no holds barred: all tempos, all styles.
S: It’s going to be a mashup. It almost sounds corny…
B: … but it’s not, I’ll tell you why: because people kinda expect from the things we’ve written before. Like he [Skream] wrote the La Roux record or “Burning Up” and things like that are fully over there [the overground] but he hasn’t fully gone. But we can do that with Magnetic Man, we don’t have to be scared that people expect this from us, or expect that.
A: The festivals now, the people who are listening to Magnetic Man, before it was like “I like drum & bass,” “I like dubstep…” now you get people who go to festivals who will go and find their dubstep artist, their drum & bass but then they’ll go and listen to a band.
M: Festivals are really open like that.
A: They are.
S: The clubs are going like that now as well. I love playing on a mixed lineup. It’s great because you can play… say, a house record but end up going into a mad breaks ravey thing.
A: I think that’s the exciting thing about Magnetic Man, it’s that we’re just making music that we like. It’s just music. That. We. like. If it sounds great, it doesn’t have to be pigeon holed.
Copyright Shaun Bloodworth/Ammunition and, taken at FWD>> + Rinse. FWD>>+Rinse return to Matter on the 29th of Jan. Boy Better Know, Geeneus, EZ and Kode9 y'know!
M: I appreciate you want to keep the vocalists under wraps until they’ve happened, but do you envision a Magnetic Man show that’s you expanded with some other musicians or are you going to keep it just you three in the live show?
A: For the moment, we want to keep it minimal.
S: It keeps it our thing. There’s so many people just going from dance to live…
A: … and you listen to the record and … imagine you went to see a live band and they replaced the live drummer with a drum machine and the bass player with a 303, you’d be like ‘what the fuck is this?’
M: I always think of Destiny’s Child live, where you get some fat drummer with a mullet on the ‘80s toms at the back, and I’m like ‘no no, I want Rodney Jerkins or Timbaland’s drums…’
B: That’s where every single electronic artist goes wrong. They try and get a drummer in: why? It sounded good with that crazy snare you had.
A: I can not see the point of that. It’s ridiculous: you like that music because of that sound.
S: Some live drum & bass sounds alright with live drums, probably because it’s all breaks.
M: And there’s only certain drummers that can do it…
B: For me I still listen to it and think: it’s not the same. It doesn’t have that Amen sound with that recycled feel to it, where it’s sampled, and sampled and sounds bad.
M: One of the things you guys remind me of is Roni Size: Reprazent who took a bunch of sick underground producers and made a live show and one of the things they did was to incorporate some of their solo classics into the show. Could you ever see this from you guys, doing say “Red” or “Burning Up?”
A: It can be open but at the moment we have so much good stuff…
S: We did that at the start but that was mainly because of lack of time to get Magnetic Man stuff done, so I was sort of remixing my own beats. But we probably play a lot of that stuff better in a DJ set. So now it’s the challenge of the three of us coming together. Now we can bring in riffs and completely mash it.
A: It’s going to remain fluid, which is good. It’s not going to be a standard set.
S: This stuff isn’t going to be heard in any DJ set: it’s Magnetic Man music.
M: Oh no, Hatcha won’t be happy!
A: He’s going to be pissed.
M: …and that is a formidable force!
S: But it needs to be done, especially for the first year until the single or album is released, so it’s all about having people there to see it, when it’s fully formed.
B: I want it to be a shock to people.
S: They can’t go get the record again tomorrow.
A: I think that’s the main thing about it, that it is an event. The thing about Magnetic Man is it is the show, and the lights and how everything’s going to work together.
M: And that is how things are going these days, with records not selling a lot, the focus is on live now…
A: We’re not really bothered about the money…
M: Yeah course, but with live shows there’s such scale now.
A: Just seeing what we’ve done so far off our own backs, and you know how good that show was… so going to the next step now and getting a major label behind you it’s just like…
S: The scale of the show is quite crazy. It’s going to be interesting to see because obviously we’re going to get bigger stages now. It’s gonna be hard but exciting.
A: It’s nice because before we’d say ‘do you think we can do this?’ and they’d be like ‘err, no way…’ . Now we ask and they say ‘yes.’
B: Dreams are made possible.
S: The days of festival staff being rude are over, that’s a great thing. The about of times I’d ask ‘sorry, do you have a spare lead?’ and they’d say ‘no!’ You get some real rude festivals staff and now they can’t do that, and it’s great.
M: Do you have set dates for next year?
A: Ahh… yeah a few festivals but…
S… we can’t say them until the lineups are released.
M: So, doesn’t this mean you’re going to spend a lot of time on tour together?
A: Yes.
M: Is that not going to be chaos?
A: We’ve done three tours together now.
M: I’m trying to work out who’s going to be most trouble out of you three….
S: Everyone has their own night.
B: That’s how it’s been!
S: There’ll be one night where I’ll feel rough and Benga will take charge. Then I’ll be better again another night…
B: You always get dragged in anyway. It might be his night.
S: Someone will try and say ‘I’m going to have an early night, go home after the show…’
M: What is it about the Big Apple camp, because I know Hatcha’s the king of the windups…
A: That shop was one long windup. You learnt from the best.
S: There’s actually no windups on tour, because it gets to volatile situations where everyone’s feeling rough. Windups could lead to a full blown row.
[randomly, at this point, the posh West London pub we’ve been taken to around the corner from Sony in High Street Kensington blacks out, so it’s candle lit interview from here on in…]
Benga: Blackout! Blackout with Blackdown!
S: They keep saying the whole road blacks out, let’s get to the kitchen!
M: So, do you actually have to limit the windups on tour?
S: What it is that, generally seven or eight days in, nobody’s in the best of moods, though Arthur is generally alright, but me and Benga, we end up bickering with each other.
B: We do wind each other up to a point but we no each other’s limits. On the eighth day, everyone been out having it, because that’s what you do on tour, you play, go out, get smashed, wake up and then get driven somewhere else. You don’t have to try and get yourself anywhere else and it makes it even worse. You think to yourself, I could actually die tonight…
A: No, you do pretend to be dead. That’s Benga’s biggest trick: pretend to be dead to cleaners in hotels.
M: How funny is it?
A: It’s fucking funny - but they don’t think it is.
S: He laid on the floor between the door and the corridor…
[Maniacal cackling from Benga in the background…]
S:… the cleaner found him, tried to jog him, then burst into tears and then tried to call an ambulance. He jumped up laughing and ran off.
M: Croydon stitch up!
B: At the time, I was in tears.
M: How long did you have to lie there before someone found you?
S: About half an hour.
A: More like ‘how long did he have to hold his breath for?’
M: Right! That’s a complicated wind-up.
B: She shook me and went ‘I think he’s dead!’ She called someone else and I was like ‘ohshit’ [does face like he’s going to asphyxiate] and had to ride it out for a little while.
M: [To Artwork and Benga] So what’s Skream’s greatest windup?
S: Ah… you can’t talk about it on tape.
M: Whaaaat??!
S: I don’t do windups…
A: He’s classic rock n roll: things go out the windows… but only in my room!
M: Your things?
A: Yeah!
S: Nah nah, the homeless story, that’s been my best windup.
A: He constantly tells people that they [Benga & Skream] were homeless and that he found them on the street.
S: I told it to this girl once in Brighton and I had to hold my face for 15 minutes… I almost thought I was going to cry. I told her that me and Benga were originally homeless and that Arthur was like our Fagin and found us. To this day that girl still believes us. Afterwards I’d have to put this sad face back on every time she appeared and she’d be like ‘ahhh…’. I felt like I was going to explode with laughter.
M: Like you want do die inside… Thinking about it you know, I’m not sure how I could maintain that level of windup for that long.
B: Now, this guy [Arthur] did this king one to Chef, we gotta expose him…
[Much shouting and laughing…]
Both A + S: Nah, nah, nah!!!
A: Leave it, leave it!
M: Hmm, did Chef not take it well?
S: Thing is, he got sucked in so far…
PPA: Now leave it there!!! It’s going. In. the. paper? [points to the dictaphone on the table…]… fucksake! So… yeah… move on!
M: Ahem, OK. So what is the longest period you’ve got to be on tour together for? Because I’m concerned about the level of wind-uppery…
S: There’s only so many dates you can do in the UK so…
A: This is different things now, you’ll have to ask Sony. And we can handle it.
M: Yeah?
A: Yeah.
S: DJing is practice for this sort of thing. The thing is we’ll never fight, none of us will ever fight each other which is good.
B: There’s always someone in the middle, the sane one. C’mon, let’s have a group hug!
M: I’m not sure how you do it, I’m not sure I could spend…
B: Why don’t you come along? Because then if we want to kill someone…
M: Dunno how you do it. Traveling, planes…
S: We haven’t done too many planes together, we’ve only done one. Denmark.
A: No, we’ve done loads. We done Ireland the other day… loads.
B: Ha, you’ve forgotten!
S: Yeah, err, Holland, Ireland, Sweden... Norway…
A: Yeah? It’s all coming back now. But I think it’s just the fact that we’ve known each other for that long now…
S: Skream, it’s been a long time now
A: Ten years, maybe a little bit more.
M: Arthur, do you remember the early days, when you were teaching them…?
A: You can’t teach them nothing! Nah, I remember them getting their first Playstation.
S: I used Fruity Loops before I knew Benny, but I knew Arthur before I used Fruity.
A: But as you know, as you’ve looked into it, just how many people in this scene came out of Big Apple. It’s freaky. It’s odd.
M: But “odd” makes it sound like it was a fluke. It wasn’t a fluke that so many guys in dubstep came out of the Big Apple shop, it was design: you were all on it.
B: It’s funny, because when you say things like that, doesn’t it make you think we was meant to do this? And so next year [2010]…
S: Completely! So many people come up to me and say they used to see me in the shop, and I would never have known. Like for example Breakage. He’s from Mitcham, ten minutes down the road.
B: So if you want to get all spiritual, spiritually we’re going to smash it next year [2010]. It just makes sense… spiritually.
A: It is weird though. Dubstep’s just thing that every step of the way it has gone onto another level, for the last ten years. And now it’s got to the point where yeah, we have signed a major record deal and it had to happen because it was going that way.
M: I don’t find it weird the fact that people from Big Apple records got big, because you were all on it, what I do find weird is there was a long time when it was this tiny community making really good music and then suddenly it went mental. I’m still shocked by that… like today and I get out of the tube in High Street Kensington for a dubstep interview. It was impossible before… it didn’t seem possible when buying Ghost 001 or Big Apple Records 001.
A: It is weird but to us it just seems like progression. It’s like when we signed the deal, someone came up to me and said, this is fucking mental, this is amazing, you’ve signed a major record deal now and we were like ‘oh yeah…’ It just seams normal to us because that’s where it’s got to go.
B: What I find amazing about your deal, in 2009, is that these days majors seem to sign ‘artists’ not producers, and then they plug the producers in. But you guys are the producers. The time in the mid ‘90s when drum & bass producers were getting big deals: that time seemed to go for a while, and in many cases still is: they want X-Factor puppets or female solo singers…
A: Yeah but this is Columbia Records and the team at Columbia are just unreal.
S: The great thing is we’ve got full control. They just said, we’ve seen what you’ve done, we’ll just help you to go smash it. To be able to do what you want to do and have the support of those people is unreal.
M: Otherwise you wouldn’t have signed the deal?
A: No way. Why would ya? But it’s amazing that they’re looking to us and saying, where is it going to go…
M: So how is the album looking?
A: We’ve been working already so we’ve got a lot of it done. In January we’re starting to properly get on it, 24-7. And then smash it.
M: So how does it affect your solo album Skream?
S: It’s coming out next year but it’s a solo thing, and this is Magnetic Man. It’s no longer three people: it’s a whole.
B: That’s the whole thing: instead of being Skream, Artwork and Benga, we’re a band now. We’re just Magnetic Man. When you see Alex Turner go off and do his side project and then come back to Artic Monkeys, they didn’t become “Alex Turner and Artic Monkeys”, they were just Artic Monkeys.
S: This is just a side project that has become a bit more major.
A: I think it’s just because we can see where this can go as a band, it’s so exciting.
M: It certainly opens doors into whole worlds you cant get to as a DJ, who don’t play on the biggest stages at Glastonbury or Roskilde.
S: The DJ’s an inbetweener.
M: So the live thing opens doors like nothing else, so it means you can keep going upwards. So how do you feel when you walk out on stage and see that many people?
S: It’s alright because you’ve got your friends behind you.
[Laugher from everyone at the Roquefort Factor from Skream…]
B: Ohmydayz…
S: Me I’ve never really been one to get scared of big crowds.
A: Where was the one where they were waiting for an hour before?
S: Pukkelpop.
A: We just did Pukkelpop. They have a band on and then they have an hour between where they clean the stage and y’know, mess around. And for every hour there was no one in the tent. But for us for the whole hour before, it was packed, waiting. And this was weird because we’re trying to set up and it’s packed full of people. 5,000 people waiting in there and then 2,000 outside stormed security and got in.
S: It was MENTAL. It was borderline rioting.
M: Did you play the ambient ones to slow it down a bit?
B: Nah we WENT IN, haha!
S: All three of us did a triple crowd surf and me and Arthur nearly killed Benga.
B: Hehe it’s actually quite true: they crowd surfed on top of me. But then I had a crazy one this weekend, I jumped from this stage that was like… how high was it?
S: It was quite a way, I wouldn’t risk it…
M: How do you know if the crowd will hold you up?
B: You don’t you just risk it.
S: You know… well you kinda know.
B: You hope they show some appreciation by catching you!
S: We’ve all hurt ourselves.
M: It only takes one bloke to move out of the way and then…
S: Nah nah, generally we do it at the point when they can’t move. When it’s sardines. So they either let you land on their heads or they put their hand up.
M: Now that makes more sense.
S: I’ve done it in a basement club but you don’t generally do it in half-filled clubs because you’re asking for trouble.
M: You’re asking for a broken skull!
S: The funniest one was when me and Beni asked the promoter ‘can we crowd surf here?’ and the promoter [does Scananavian accent] “yesh yesh, you can do this but the last DJ who done it is now paraplegic.” But what happened to the guy is he jumped diagonally and ended up in a ditch.
M: He wants to aim at the crowd, that’s where he’s going wrong there…
B: I’ve done some high ones.
M: So how do you get back from the crowd?
A: I’ve seen him disappear. Go right to the back… and then he didn’t come back. He had to walk round!
M: You must be doing something right if you’re crowd surfing.
B: Yeah we’re rock stars…
S: I’m pretty sure no one did it before us in dubstep… all three of us: we got Arthur to do it.
A: Yeah: fuck me I don’t think I’d do it again.
S: Once half the rider has gone, mid-set, anything can happen. That is one good thing about being in a group, you get your full rider now. You get all the extras like sandwiches and dips.
A: Dips are important to Skream.
S: Carrot sticks! We’re not actually demanding. There’s a standard rider and it’s our tour manager who gets everything he wants. The killer is a postcard, he wants one from every city we’re in. And he gets it. If he doesn’t he says ‘where are the postcards?’ Even in the UK.
M: Does he send them to his gran?
A: Yeah!
S: I’m telling you, if we’re in Leicester, he’ll want a postcard from Leicester!
A: We always turn up and there’s a really nice bottle of wine, even though we drink vodka, which strangely disappears at the end of the night.
B: We drink straight vodka because we are – one more time again – rockstars. We drink straight vodka and we dress all in black, haha [They’re not, by the way – M].
S: It’s the mix of adrenaline and a glass of ice which makes vodka go down so easy… but anyway enough about Benga’s alcoholism.
M: OK so I think that’s all I need for the interview, unless there’s anything else I should know about?
S: From next year can everyone call me Olivia because, erm, I’m undergoing some major surgery and I’d appreciate it if you didn’t point or stare. Like no, seriously, don’t stare.
B: Well, that’s it… I didn’t know he was going to tell anyone that.
S: I could be the female vocalist…
B: Oh yeah that’s something people didn’t know, I’m the lead singer.
S: What Benny doesn’t know is that’s now cut from next year.
M: He should have read the small print.
S: We’ll just throw him out live on stage with the mic.
B: [starts to pretend to MC badly] You sayin? What you sayin? What’s everyone sayin? Sayin the same thing over and over again…
S: So, err, do we know how to get back from here?
A: Yeah, it’s doable… · LDN016 Skream "Sweetz (2005 Flex)"/"Angry World" [Keysound Recordings] is out on the 1st of March. "Sweetz" was first aired in our Keysound Radio mix of 2005. Several other dubs on that mix remain unreleased to this day.
He said "I've got this great 2008 mix, might be cool for your blog."
I think he meant "2009 mix." That was par number 1, a self par. Minor. Funny thing is Elijah and Skilliam, as grime **DJs** stay away from all that parring stuff, though it seems they have a natural talent for it.
I wrote back: "I'm not usually on the retrospective tip, but you keep raving about new grime producers, and when I heard SRC I believed you."
So I said: "I'm not really on a 2008 flex but what about a 2010 new grime beats/producers mix?" Cos frankly the way people have dropped grime like a hot potato is embarrassing and you boys should let them know.
He agreed, went away, did the mix, sent it to me as an exclusive. Yet I was away, just got back today and in the time he managed to up it to some Grime Forum feed and publish it to the world. He'd parred me and himself: a double & self par, definitely one of the most advanced pars in grime.
Thankfully the mix is heavy... Download the Elijah & Skilliam 01012010 mix HERE.
Swindle - Open Your Mind (Butterz) Royal T - Hot Ones Remix (Unreleased) Terror Danjah - Acid (Hyperdub) Swindle - 'Trending Topic' (Butterz) DVA feat P Money - Wind It Up (No Right Turn) Rude Kid - Absolut Vokda (No Hats No Hoods) DOK & Terror Danjah - Hysteria (Butterz) Swindle - Air Miles (Planet Mu) Silencer - Miss Asia (Wow Bass Level 3) Joker - Output One Two (Tectonic) Rude Kid & Terror Danjah - The Best Crawler (No Hats No Hoods) Tempa T - Boy Off The Ting (No Hats No Hoods) Terror Danjah - Bipolar (Butterz) OGZ - Hot Ones (Deeco Remix) Maniac - Lengman Tune (Unreleased) Terror Danjah - Sidechain (Swindle Remix) (Planet Mu) SRC - Powerman 9 (Unreleased) DOK - Keep Making Grime (Unreleased) Rude Kid - Electric (Earth 616) J Beatz - Life & Death (SCUK) Terror Danjah - Air Bubble (Butterz) Starkey - Ok Love (Planet Mu) ????? - ?????? (Teaser)
Solar Man- "Light and Dark"
Solar Man- "Life Rhythms (Babylon Must Burn)"
No Fixed Abode- "Beginners Mind"
"Do For Self" (SKIT)
Amen-Ra- "Mountain Top Guru"
Double Helix- "Voyages"
Double Helix- "Eastern Philosophies"
Low Density Matter- "Bright Sparks"
Double Helix- "TSR-1"
No Fixed Abode- "Touch n Go 2"
Amen-Ra- "Boiling Point"
Low Density Matter- "Reach out 2010"
Double Helix- "96 Flavas (No More Games)"
Amen-Ra- "Fragments of a Love Story"
"Grit Skit" (SKIT)
Amen-Ra- "Final Chapter"
Amen-Ra- "Trifle"
Low Density Matter- "Midnight Oil"
Amen Ra feat. No Fixed Abode- "Gradual Alignment"
UPDATE: Erm, have you checked this yet? A madness.
Last year we finished the year with Trim live in the studio. It's been a great year musically for us on Rinse and we wanted to celebrate that and get into the festive spirit. In 2009 the spirit of house & garage have run through so many styles of music, from new school 2step to UK funky, dark, dubstep-influenced house to grime-inspired no bass workouts.
In this spirit we put together a Christmas special show, rammed with guests, live on Rinse.
The lineup was: Dusk + Blackdown v LHF v Kowton v El-B v Joy Orbison. Bigup Kowton for trekking all the way from Bristol, shout to El-B for getting the curry in before he took the mic. The snow made getting to and from the studio a bit of a mission but it all came together in the end.
0:00 DJ Premiere: Beat1 (Instrumentals) 0:41 Wiley / Various Productions - Sinner (Logan Sama mixtape) 3:25 The Heavy - How You Like Me Now? - Joker Remix 8:05 Grievous Angel: We Want You (Belief is the Enemy CD) 8:28 Erykah Badu: Telephone (New Amerykah Part One CD) 12.07 Kryptic Minds: 768 (Tectonic 12") 15:23 Kromestar: BassBin (A Selection of Works CD) 17:04 Pinch & Moving Ninja: False Flag - Kryptic Minds Remix (Tectonic 12) 18:08 Jill Scott: What We Had (Grievous Angel re-edit) 18:56 Jill Scott: Crown Royal 19:54 Blackdown: The Drumz of Shanghai (Keysound Dubplate) 23:14 Silkie: Mattaz (CD) 27:45 Silkie & Harry Craze: Favela 30:28: Grievous Angel: Harpy (Keysound 12) 30:00 23Hz & Numaestro: Zumo - Sully Remix (unreleased) 33:38 Atki2: Time Freezes (unreleased) 37:44 Grievous Angel: Magic Dub (unreleased) 40:59 Ends
To finish the celebrations of the release of "Margins Music Redux" here's a second exclusive mix from Grievous Angel. Check the clip of "...Margins Redux" here...
In addition Grievous and I have been speaking to Tom @ Fact magazine. As well as the news of the Skream and LV 12"s on Keysound there's word that LHF have signed exclusively to Keysound.
Given we all knew Sully, Grievous, Kowton, Skream and LV were badmen, LHF have been the discovery of 2009 for me. With an EP due on Keysound early next year and an album to follow, I can't wait to share the layers upon layers of their sound.
Like I said in the Fact piece together they've got this sound like Sun Ra's hijacked Rinse FM and is using it to communicate with the heavens. Buried inside one corner of the LHF collective is a junglist fighting his way out: these guys have got drumz. Then there's another part of them that is lost in LA, their wonky beats falling off of the grid. Other members of the collective remind me of Horsepower's ability to transport you to lands far, far away: to Bollywood films or damp Brazilian riverbanks.
I'm just lost in their sound right now...
So, to end this rambling blog post, next Thursday 17th is our last show of the year and to go out with a bang, we're planning a Dusk + Blackdown Christmas Garage & Funky special.
We're inviting lots of special guests: who would you like to see on a UKG + funky tip?
Last week was epic . Monday our first Rinse FM station meeting, Tuesday rolling Clapton deep with LV on a photoshoot, Saturday Hyperdub 5 party which was too much fun, then rolling home double nightbus style with the LHF clan.
Then we rolled up on Rinse. Less talk, more dubs!
DOWNLOAD it here. **Dusk + Blackdown Rinse FM November 09**
Blackdown: So for those people who don't know you, can you introduce yourself: who are you, what music are you into, how long have you been DJing, where do you DJ, what label do you run...?
Whistla: I'm Whistla I run Sub.FM (under the alias Atari-420), I run L2S Recordings, the Future Garage Forum and Future Garage Facebook Page. I've been DJing properly since 97, and have been producing for the same length of time. I got into music from raving to hardcore back in the early 90's and as I got older decided to start producing and DJing for myself, rather than just being a listener/raver. I first got into radio by playing on pirate station Addiction FM, which I then started to assist in the management of until it folded.
I then moved to Eruption FM and moved away from hardcore and into the early breaks and growing garage scenes. I guess my "progress" through music has been pretty "nuum-ish" except that I never did the dnb thing, I went from hardcore to garage & breaks, d&b was always a little too fast for my taste. In 2000 I went on a long travelling spree and went all over Asia and lived in Australia for a while. Once I got back, I got straight back into doing the music thing, this was the very early Forward days, I was playing in various places that had fluid music policies, where i would play dark garage, some breaks, and some classics.
It was at this time I started Sub.FM, I had always wanted to do an internet pirate ever since the early broadcasts that Interface did. Once I started the station, the ball really started to roll, and dubstep became the name for what I was playing, and the growth of the station spurred me on in my own productions and I guess that takes us up to where I am now. You can hear me playing every two months at my residency @ Superdubpressure in Brighton, I also regularly play all over London and the UK, you can catch me @ the next Woofer Attack, and also on my European tour to Vienna and Kiev this December.
B: I've suggested this interview to talk about the term 'future garage' that you coined a while back as a "movement more so than a genre" designed so "garage can have a future" (rather than futurist garage per se). That term has gained some traction recently, can you give me a little background to it? What lead you to head in this direction?
W: Well I think the realisation that what i wanted to make and play wasn't "dubstep" anymore came when I would be at a night and I wasn't vibing like I was before. That led me to think about what I did want; skittery hats, and swing, and shuffle, and drums! And not just bass, though of course bass is still very important!
For me, at least, the word dubstep has come to mean a different type of music to what it meant to me personally in the beginning, which is fine, words and there meanings change all the time. But it did leave a void "so what shall I call this stuff i'm playing?". So I just started saying various different names, these included "Psychedelic Garage" "Detroit 2 Step" etc .. but the one that seems to have resonated with people is future garage, in this way I think its a name that "chose itself".
I also think that "post-dubstep" trying to make one sweeping name to describe various different aestetics is a bit dangerous, I also think the idea of "pushing" a genre name is misguided (this happened loads with dubstep ie. "let's push the sound", of which I admit I was also guilty of). I think "pushing" a sound in that way actually leads to formulaic productions as people rush to make new tunes and "become part of it". The name future garage has appeared as an attempt to help describe the music rather than to market it persay.
In this respect I think future garage isnt really a genre at all, its not a final destination like dubstep was, instead I see Future Garage as a collection of DJ's and producers that share a vision of what garage can and should be, but who all have different visions at the same time. Future garage is like a moment in time, its garage not reborn, but garage re-envisioned. Who knows what will come from it, but its not an end stop, future garage is just the beginning of a new generation using the best bits of garage along with there own aestetics, creating lots of new musical avenues to explore.
B: So, why now?
W: Well I think its happened now due to the general ill fitting "dubstep" tag for a lot of the garage influenced producers who were/are working under the umbrella term "dubstep". I know that dubstep doesnt really fit for me anymore, and the same is true for a lot of people. A new way to describe the music was needed.
B: What labels, artists and DJs should people be looking for in this vein?
W: Some of my fav labels are: L2S Recordings, Night Audio, Bass Machine Music, Furioso, Frisjfo Beats, Smokin Sessions, some of the latest bits on Keysound are big too!
Some producers and djs I'd say to look out for are: Submerse, Littlefoot, Clueless, M2J, Monz, Dawntreader, Erra, Touch, Sines, Demos, Dom, VVV, ReSketch, Synkro, KingThing, Fused Forces, Sully, Sclist, Kanvas, Pangaea, Dokument, Cosmic Revenge, Point B oh and me ;)
B: And Dusk + Blackdown ffs! :) But moving on... you've made a Future Garage Facebook page and now a Forum, which seemed to have helped to bring interested parties together for discussion and debate. Was that the intention?
W: Yes, exactly. There was nowhere for people to go to get info and to communicate with each other, threads on dsf would get lost in amongst the sea of threads that go up there and often go completely unnoticed. I started the Facebook page to try and gauge if a forum would be worth doing, and the response was a resounding yes, so I launched the forum and its been going from strength to strength. It reminds me a lot of the early days of Dubstep Forum.
B: Lots of those interested parties have been through and come out of the dubstep scene. There's lots of different areas of creativity that are being explored by people like this, be that the hyperdub/wonky/synth/hip hop stuff, grime, UK house and funky as well as classic 2step/uk garage styles. Are you open to cross pollonation and interaction with other scene or is the future garage a distinct direction in itself?
W: I think the cross pollonation is what makes future garage what it is. It's something that blends lots of influences from lots of places, but puts it into a garage framework. Thats what makes it future garage, cross pollination within a garage framework. To this end I have been contacted by various producers from other scenes interested in doing future garage releases, one that I'm particularly looking forward to getting released is traditional UKG producer Duncan Powell's forthcoming EP on L2S "Came Into View EP".
B: You've talked a little on the Future Garage forum about your concerns around just the using the term "garage", primarily that "So Solid and the like destroyed any hope of 2step being accepted again in any really serious sense". I mention this because was at FWD>> a few sundays ago for Joy Orbison, a house-influenced artist in a dubstep club, and he'd attracted quite a following, much younger and more student-y than the usual FWD>> crowd. Spyro was on before and dropped Wiley's "Eskimo" and So Solid's "Dilemma" - and like much of his set, these total anthems got air. Which makes me think that to lots of people, there's so much water under the bridge that "garage" might not be a dirty word anymore. What do you think on this point?
W: I think that your right, to a younger crowd the "garage" word isnt so much of a swear word, but it does however have a different connotation of being "mum's music" ie. 18 year olds now, there parents probably listen to old EZ mixes in the car etc... This then becomes the other problem with it just being simply "garage". And to me it really isnt just plain "garage", there are no straight rnb rip offs (the staple of what I call traditional garage) and the whole approach is totally different, its not music designed to get dressed up in shoes and shirt for, its music to dance all night too, too take the dance somewhere new and exciting, rather than music to lear at girls to.
The 2step tag equally has similar problems, but these are more to do with noterirty rather than simply "meh garage, posh birds and moody fellas". With 2 step people like So Solid etc engendered an image that was so alien to a lot of the garage faithful, that they lost faith completely, and in most instances went completely over to house. I wouldn't want to use a name that has such a chequered meaning to so many people. And anyway to say all future garage is 2step would be incorrect.
Photo: Todd Edwards and Whistla
B: The elephant in the future garage room for me is that you can very effectively argue that UK funky is future garage, or certainly UKG mark II. For me any move to revive garage ideas should do its best to work with the energy and ideas of the funky scene, as it has grass roots support in London and tons of momentum. But I sense you're not so keen, what's your feeling on if or how future garage and funky could interact?
W: Yeah your right, I'm very uncomfortable with UK Funky. I don't particularly like the idea of UKG pt2 and I can see the same patterns repeating already that happened back with UKG pt1, the dress codes, the mc's, the "cheesey crossovers", except that its all happened in a year and a half, rather than over 5 yrs. I do however really like the fact that there is UK Funky, as it "leaves us alone" to build our thing without "scensters" trying to jump on it. I guess if pushed to make UK Funky and future garage interact I would have UK Funky in one room and future garage in another. Thats how I would envision it.
I personally dont hear UK funky as being very "garagey." I dont often hear the "swing" and even less "the shuffle", plus tropical beats and soca patterns have never really been my thing. Most UK funky I've ever heard has been either very housey or too broken beat for my taste. I actually hear a stronger Acid House era influence to a lot of UK Funky than a garage one. Future Garage has that indescribable something that I want from tunes, funky hasn't given me that. And trying to "cash in" on the success of another scene also seems slightly wrong, I'd rather future garage do its own thing, on its own terms.
B: While after the wonky debacle, which wasn't intended as a genre name but quickly nobody noticed that detail anymore, I appreciate I shouldnt talk about names too much but I have a concern about the use of the word "future" and how it will be seen, despite your best intentions now. Futurism is a school of thought in itself and to me is one that has been over-used in a musical context. It's also a prophecy that doesn't fullfill itself: you can't be the future forever and eventually you will look and sound dated, just, for example, as (the wonderful) records from 80s Detroit now do. Also it doesnt seem accurate in this case: going back to garage is less 'future' more 'past' or 'present'. What's your thinking on this?
W: Like we have already said, I see this as a movement, not a genre. It's an easy way to find out about a lot of new music that currently has a shared aestetic and complimentary sound. To me saying "future" implies newness and a contemporary approach, and yes the term might sound dated possibly in 10 yrs time, but I am sure that by then everyone you associate with future garage will have been termed something else by someone anyway. Thats the nature of dance music, esp dance music that is made by producers that try to keep moving and progressing in there sounds. Future garage is a movement, taking garage to new places.
Once garage has been given a new future (outside of Time and Envy and one off events thrown by EZ @ the O2) we will be "in the future" once this is the case who knows what we will be calling it? I dont think people should form attachments to names, look what heartache that caused to people that had invested so much emotional attachment to the word "dubstep". The word just lets you know what your getting.
Once its no longer relevant then fine use something else, that is the stage dubstep reached, it stopped being a useful descriptor, and the name we are using instead is future garage, at some point in the future sure people might start calling there stuff something else, but man come on lets not worry about the unknowable, just enjoy the music, as its the music that will live forever and is what truely matters, the name just helps people find there way thru the map of dance.
I wouldnt say people are particularly going "back to garage" either as most future garage producers werent even around for garage the first time round, they are building based on a whole different framework. That is what is so refreshing. Its going forward with all the best of the past as its bed-rock, its not a retro trip, or some kind of nostalgia buzz, its a whole new thing.
Recently United Vibes - aka Vibezin and Amen-Ra (LHF) - put together a series of mixes to celebrate 10 years in the game and truth be told they caught me off guard. Not only are they insanely well mixed and selected but they catch so well the spirit of garage that's in the air right now. They sent me reeling, reminded just how wonderfully weird and abstract the warm house n r&b mutation that garage is can be. They also sent me scuttling off to Discogs.com to locate new-to-me white labels, especially from the man like Steve Gurley. So here they are. Enjoy!
UNITED VIBES 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY MIX PART 1: 97-99 2-Step
"Big up all original garage pirates, special dedication."
Skykap- “Ride (U want a ride pt II) Allstars- “What about us” ??-?? (Emitta Sounds) MJ Cole- “Shadows” (Ray Hurley Remix) Slide Bros- “2-step Lover” Sovereign- “Rely” Abstrac- “Love Devotion” (Zouk Mix) David Howard- “Time” Mr Reds- “Honey” ??-?? (Confetti Records) Madflex- “Feelings” Chris Mac- “Alright” Chris Mac- “Plenty More” Groove Chronicles- “Hold On” Anthill Mob- “Give Me” Skykap- “Endorphins” Hi Times- “Time Will Show Pt. II” US Alliance- “All I know” (Da Grunge Mix) D.E.A- “Can’t U See” Chris Mac- “Set It Off” D.E.A- “Rush” Chris Mac- “Rhythm” KMA- “Kaotic Madness” KMA- “Cape Fear” (Crush Groove Remix) Groove Chronicles- “Stone Cold” Myron- “Get Down” (Groove Chronicles Remix)
"Part 2 of the series. Soulful, dark, fun ,street, twisted 2-step from the turn of the millenium. Essential for all who are diggin for the roots. The celebrations are well under way. Enjoy!"
UNITED VIBES 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY MIX PART 2: MILLENIUM 2STEP
Mr Grievous supplies a very tasty new mix to mark the arrival of this on Monday...
Dusk + Blackdown v Grievous Angel “Margins Music Redux” [Keysound] in shops Monday 23rd of November and Sully 12 "The Loot remix/In Some Pattern" due soon. Meanwhile over at Fact Mag, I've let a little off about Keysound 16 (Skream lost dubs) and 17 (LV EP). Can't wait for Keysound 18 neither!
0:00 Intro 0:09 MF Grimm / DJ Premier - International Rules 2:04 The Streets - Lets push things forward (Roll Deep Remix) 4:50 DJ Premier / Gangstarr: Mass Appeal (instrumental) 5:05 Blackdown: Beta 7:50 Joe: Rut 13:30 Untold & D Franklin: Beacon 14:30 Prince: Soft and Wet (screwed and chopped) 16:09 Pearson Sound: Gambetta 18:08 D'Angelo: One Mo Gin 22:21 Shortstuff: A Rustling 25:33 Prince: Black Sweat (Grievous Angel Refix) 27:45 Musical Mob: Pulse X 27:45 Blackdown: Defocused 28:56 Big$hot: Glitch 30:57 Ends
My Pitchfork review of Roll Deep Street Anthems, arguably one of the most important grime CDs of all time. Plus, Eskimo vocal and vocal remix finally get a release. Fyah!!!
Within the general dubstep-grime-funky space, this year has been one of shifting sands and moving boundaries, with much of the change catalysed by house and funky. Exciting takes on these elements have come of late from Kowton, Joy Orbison and Jam City, while Mosca seems to be getting a lot of attention, and that doesn’t even mention many of the flagship funky producers like Cooly G, Crazy Cousins, Roska and co.
As the sands shifted this year, a new artist crept into Dusk and my Rinse FM sets, Hackman, that had a great take on at 130bpm tempo. Like the best of funky, it seems to zig zag between polar opposites rather than choosing one extreme to pursue. Hackman’s sound is characterised by warm analog sub bass and asymmetric percussion layered over a 4x4 base. But there’s an abundance of interesting groove and warm bass in the 130ish/funky spectrum: what makes Hackman’s sound stand out from the crowd is a great propensity for saccharine sweet melodies that contrast with the dark sub and scattered drums. These melodies seem to echo MJ Cole’s turn of the millennium 2step productions, with lush touches despite a tuff club exoskeleton.
So with one of his tracks now signed to a Fabric compilation, here’s an interview and exclusive mix.
Hackman "Blacksnake" (Dub) Hackman "Feel It" (Dub) Hackman "Multicultural" (Shifting Peaks Recordings) Hackman "Funky Tune" (Dub) Hackman "Always the Same" (Shifting Peaks Recordings) Hackman "Dusk" (Dub) Rio Rhythm Band "Carnival Da Cassa (Hackman Remix)" (Dub) Hackman "Illusionz" (Studio Rockers) Hackman "Pistol in Your Pocket" (Fabric) Silkie "The Horizon (Hackman Remix)"(Dub) Hackman & Bluto "Untitled" (Dub)
Hackman interview
Blackdown: To start at the top, can you tell me a bit about who you are, where you’re from…?
Hackmann: I'm from a small village I doubt anyone would have heard of in the south west countryside. Music has been a prominent part of my life since a very early age where my parents forced me (though I'm now grateful) to play the piano and violin. From that I've had a very classical upbringing, being in involved in school orchestras and concerts. After finishing school, I'm now at Leeds College of Music, doing a 3 year production course.
B: Tell me about the totally mental animated gif you use on your Dubstep Forum signature? It seems to perfectly reflect the melodic technicolour in your sound. Tell me you’ll use it on any future label art!
H: Ha, found it by chance on someone's MySpace, can't remember who and nicked it, though its from some big American hip hop artists music video I’m now told, like Xzibit or someone, so don't think that’s possible for label art! Would definitely take some inspiration from it.
B: How long have you been producing for and what made you start?
H: For about 2 and a half years. I used to listen to a lot of d&b, and got my first laptop around the same time, which came with Garageband. Tried to make a few tracks on there, which were pretty shit, but luckily my dad got Logic 6 near the same time so was able to start using that. Soon after that a mate introduced me to midnight request line and was hard on the production ever since then.
B: You produce dubstep and funky, when did funky begin to inspire you and how do you decide which style to approach?
H: Its funny, always used to walk out for an extended smoke during Kode 9 sets at DMZ or exodus when he'd start playing funky. Properly started to get into it about April time, when I heard Roska's two EPs, Elevated levels and Climate change. Since then, haven't made a dubstep tune, except for a colab or two with mates, mainly because it doesn't interest me anymore, and the stuff that still does is all this future garage business, especially all the Blunted Robots stuff.
B: Your funky is what has really grabbed Dusk and I this year for our Rinse show, can you tell me how you approach it?
H: I usually just sit down at the computer with no real idea of what I’m going to do. I always start with the beats, and usually aim to get a solid catchy melody over some, in my opinion, nice chord progressions. Then I usually finish with the bass, as well as additional percussion or samples.
B: You seem to have a great balance between clean melodies and ruff sub bass that reminds me of MJ Cole, what’s the inspiration behind this approach?
H: Probably a lot of MJ Cole, as well as all the old skool 2 step stuff, I think that’s the best music around, just wish I’d been old enough to go out to those nights!
B: You also have a great approach to percussion, using great off kilter/asymmetrical patterns in the bars: what’s your thinking on this?
H: I think the rhythms the most important element of a track, I always like to be able to groove to my beats without any other parts playing. Usually put a lot of syncopation to get that swing in, but a lot of it is trial and error
B: One of your tracks has been signed or licensed by Fabric (since announced by Fact Magazine, how did that come about?
H: Through posting my tracks up on Dubstep Forum, they'd been keeping an eye on my MySpace, then when I put up “Pistol in Your Pocket” they sent me a message, was very happy!
B: Where would you like to get to in your musical career, in the near future?
H: Would really like to be at the stage where I’m trading dubs with all my favorite producers and be at the point where I don't have to get a day job.
I wasnt able to use it in full in the piece in the end but the guys at UKRecordshop.com, were cool enough to help with this... ukrecordshop.com top selling grime mixtapes of 2009
01 Skepta - Microphone Champion 02 Tinchy Stryder - Catch 22 03 Wiley - Race Against Time 04 Chipmunk - I Am Chipmunk 05 Bashy - Catch Me If You Can 06 Durrty Goodz - Ultra Sound 07 Big H - Street Crime UK 08 Newham Generals - Generally Speaking 09 P Money - Money Over Everyone 10 Roadside Gees - Nightmare On Elmz Street
It makes interesting reading. I know Trim capped his pressing size and Aim High 4 & Roll Deep Street Anthems are only just out, but Roadside Gees, Big H (Sick Boy I see ya!) and Bashy are interesting additions in a top grime 10 of 2009!
